Well the government previously agreed to pay about £40bn of our money directly to energy companies to cap the prices they were charging people. Some might say that groups like Insulate Britain may have had a point and that money could have been invested in reducing the energy requirement of housing rather than giving it to companies that are failing to invest in green tech. People still complain about the mild inconvenience of the protests rather than the wasted £40bn though...
If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
My jury is out on XR. An XR camp has just set up camp in our local park these last few days. It's taken all the police of four local wards (that's about two policemen) to manage the situation. The activitsts have gone into corner shops and emptied milk all over the floor - in vegan protest.
On my street had a neighbour violently attack three women at the weekend but there were / are no local police to attend. Hopefully that will get sorted tomorrow. Councils and police etc are so tightly stretched and under funded that an unannounced camp, set up with cars driven on to the grass and campfires etc, is not really going to enamour yourself to local residents. It does seem like rather a spoilt brat thing to do.
In other places they've been pouring engine oil over bails of wool, fleece and jumpers in a vegan protest. A friend lost all her stock at a fair. I don't hold that "any publicity is good publicity". One should not go out of one's way to be obnoxious, else we play the games of Piers Morgan or Katie Hopkins, whose name is always accompanied by a curse. Courtesy is never outdated and never unneeded.
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I'm in the voluntary extinction camp. Let the species back out gracefully and leave the rest of life to it. We have had hundreds of thousands of years to help and all we have done is mascacre, create planetary genocide, nuclear winters, endless war and destruction that has impacted every other life form from the germ to the giraffe. We've tried to control and domineer everything, hammer all to our will, shoot everything we don't like. So enough. We had a go and failed, absolutely and dismally. Let's leave quietly and have done.
So how investing insulation overnight or even last year going to help me and everyone else today paying for the massive increase in energy bills ? I don't disagree the sentiment but saying we'll invest 40billion in green energy instead of capping energy is no use to a vulnerable person today or tomorrow who going to freeze to death cause they can't pay the energy bills . Its something what should of been done years ago by any colour of political party .
Is it not a double edge sword improving insulation ? Ideal for me in the north summers aren't partially to hot with the odd exception but down south hiding in your hot house from the hot sun . I am no expert on insulation though it may work different
So how investing insulation overnight or even last year going to help me and everyone else today paying for the massive increase in energy bills ?
I'm not sure I understood the question, but improving insultation in the home means that what you do spend on heating goes much further. You need to spend less money to to warm the home and the heat stays in the house longer and you are not spending to heat the wind.
punkdoc He's a hypocrite, he even admits it. He heads a website which encourages people to not have children yet he has his own who have their own and so on and so on. It's ok for him to preach to others, but I bet he doesn't preach to his family.
If you're going to head up a save the world campaign then you could at least choose someone who has done their bit rather than not (and continues not to) give a toss in reality.
We knew about the population crisis 100yrs ago, but took no notice. The selfish and natural need to procreate is stronger than the need to save the planet.
I've done more to help than he ever has in this respect.
@Woodgreen why are you sad? We've all had a good run, haven't we?
@MikeOxgreen Give the man a break, he's 96, for god's sake. We can't do any good by battering each over the head for our efforts to change. I don't have kids but I do eat meat. Other people are vegan but drive cars. Some people fly but don't have a car. If we all do what we can and support others in their effort it will help much more than throwing stones and calling names. This is not a moral competition. The end results are all that count.
Its something what should of been done years ago by any colour of political party
Well that's the point really. By this point the bulk of the work should have been done. Houses should have been insulated, public transport and infrastructure should have been improved, all the things that are needed for a sustainable future. Instead we have missed targets, greenwashing and no real plan to get out of this. We're not even building new housing to the standard it should have been at 10 years ago.
I'm not saying we should spend £40bn of taxpayers' money now I'm saying that we should have been at the point where we didn't need to spend it at all.
If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
So how investing insulation overnight or even last year going to help me and everyone else today paying for the massive increase in energy bills ?
I'm not sure I understood the question, but improving insultation in the home means that what you do spend on heating goes much further. You need to spend less money to to warm the home and the heat stays in the house longer and you are not spending to heat the wind.
I don't disagree at all how it works but you can't insulate everyone house who needs it in a year, it far easier for the government to cap energy bill which can be done overnight. If everyone house had been insulated years ago that 40billion might be 30billion but we can't turn back the clock .
I don't see it as a waste of money £3500+ average energy bills were getting people and business panicking it lifted some of the weight off everyone shoulders .
In a ideal world Russia wouldn't of invade Ukraine and we wouldn't be even talking about massive increase in energy bills or government intervention .
We are certainly at least 30 years behind where we could be or should be. Govts and corps have blocked and blocked legislation, fully knowing the consequences, and we all have to live with it now. It seems we are going backwards. The RSPB and Greenpeace and enviromentalists are the Enemy "scaring people". Solar is the big threat.
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Is it not a double edge sword improving insulation ? Ideal for me in the north summers aren't partially to hot with the odd exception but down south hiding in your hot house from the hot sun . I am no expert on insulation though it may work different
It's ok for him to preach to others, but I bet he doesn't preach to his family.
If you're going to head up a save the world campaign then you could at least choose someone who has done their bit rather than not (and continues not to) give a toss in reality.
We knew about the population crisis 100yrs ago, but took no notice. The selfish and natural need to procreate is stronger than the need to save the planet.
I've done more to help than he ever has in this respect.
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I don't see it as a waste of money £3500+ average energy bills were getting people and business panicking it lifted some of the weight off everyone shoulders .
In a ideal world Russia wouldn't of invade Ukraine and we wouldn't be even talking about massive increase in energy bills or government intervention .
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