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Help identifying this flower from Culzean Castle?

TboneDanoTboneDano Posts: 14
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Dear Gardeners World forum members,

This is my first post! I'm a huge fan of Gardeners World from here in America. I was recently on vacation in Scotland, and went to the wonderful walled garden at Culzean Castle, where I gained an immense amount of inspiration for creating some very U.K. borders back home here in the Midwest. I particularly loved this flowering plant, but have had difficulty zeroing in on it precisely. Some of the plant identifying apps are telling me it's a Eupatorium/Joe Pye Weed, and some tell me it's Queen of the Prairie, Filipendula rubra 'Venusta', while yet another is telling me that it's an astilbe. But none of these seem to quite hit the mark, at least when I do an image search for all of them. Can someone possibly help me in identifying this plant, or help give me confirmation that one of those above is what it is. 

Thanks in advance!

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  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    Have you got a picture with the leaves in it?
    Could be Rodgersia.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    I think it could be Joe Pye Weed native to North America. How tall was it?
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    Fairly certain it is not Eupatorium [ Joe Pye weed ]
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • chickychicky Posts: 10,410
    edited August 2022
    looks like Filipendula to me - very useful at the back of my borders.  Its a bit of a thug here though.  Although when I zoom in on the leaves in your picture, maybe punkdoc is right…..they don’t look divided enough


  • Silver surferSilver surfer Posts: 4,719
    GardenerSuze said:
    I think it could be Joe Pye Weed native to North America. How tall was it?
    Eupatorium flowers are  more compact, rounder, flatter...see pics below.
    So either Rodgersia or Filipendula.
    Pics showing leaves would clinch it.
    Perthshire. SCOTLAND .
  • Shauna2021Shauna2021 Posts: 53
    I thought it looked like Rodgersia superba but hard to tell without leaves - https://www.bethchatto.co.uk/conditions/plants-for-damp-conditions/rodgersia-pinnata-superba.htm
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    @Silver surfer Yes you are right regarding Eupatorium the flowers are flatter.  
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • LiriodendronLiriodendron Posts: 8,328
    I'd go for Rodgersia too.  There's part of a leaf visible just left of centre, at the bottom of the photo.
    Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    That little bit of leaf might just be the clue. Maybe it was growing in a boggy part of the garden. There is the Culzean Palm which made me think a drier garden. 
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • bcpathomebcpathome Posts: 1,313
    My first thought was Astilbe .
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