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Weed identification

pitter-patterpitter-patter Posts: 2,429
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Can anyone help me identify these two very similar plants?


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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Echinops?

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • gjautosgjautos Posts: 429
    Look like knautia, (possibly spelt wrongly) they self seed all over my garden from next door. Not that I'm complaining!
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    @pitter-patter I think they are Echinops too.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • pitter-patterpitter-patter Posts: 2,429
    I think you’re right about it being echinops. They are a bit spiky for knautia. I’m tempted to keep them…  Can anyone explain the difference in leaf colour? 
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    @pitter-patter I have seen difference in leaf colour before with Echinops, just the same as in your photo. I realise they are next to each other but it might be a soil or nutritional issue>
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • LiriodendronLiriodendron Posts: 8,328
    Maybe there'll be a difference in flower colour?
    Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Yes I’ve also noticed variations in leaf colour for no discernible reason.  They all seem to grow just as well. 
    They’re a bit close to each other so I’d move one as soon as the weather is cooperative… the develop deep tap roots so the smaller they are when moved the better. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    @Liriodendron Do you know if there is white form?
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • pitter-patterpitter-patter Posts: 2,429
    Thank you, @GardenerSuze. I guess it might just be natural variation as well. I’ve recently seen a nice clump of echinops in the botanical garden in Cambridge and I think they’re drought tolerant as well, so I might keep them. 
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    @pitter-patter I'm not suprised they are happy at Cambridge Botanic Garden it gets so hot there.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
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