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ID for Wonky please

DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
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Is this a Chelone please?  It’s in a client’s garden. 

Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





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  • didywdidyw Posts: 3,573
    edited August 2022
    It looks very similar the the one I have growing - but mine is just showing a bit of pink in the buds.  Chelone obliqua.  I think mine has darker pink flowers. The pic is of it in its first year, it has made a nice clump now.
    Gardening in East Suffolk on dry sandy soil.
  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 12,585
    It could be, but l'm not sure about the leaves ?
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Cheers @didyw ... we thought that's what it was but the garden owner was doubtful so Wonky thought a second opinion would be a good idea.   :D

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • didywdidyw Posts: 3,573
    Hmm, you are right @AnniD - just been out to look at the leaves on mine and they are definitely a bit broader and not so glossy and the flower buds are shorter than those in Wonky's pic.  But they do look to have that turtle head shape.
    Gardening in East Suffolk on dry sandy soil.
  • JennyJJennyJ Posts: 10,576
    It looks like obedient plant (Physostegia virginiana) to me. If you gently move a flower to one side, does it stay there without springing back? I don't have it any more but the leaves look right going from memory.
    Doncaster, South Yorkshire. Soil type: sandy, well-drained
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505

    I thought this looked a bit similar and the new buds look like veronica a bit. But again, the leaves aren't right 

    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • izzy8izzy8 Posts: 147
    B3 said:

    I thought this looked a bit similar and the new buds look like veronica a bit. But again, the leaves aren't right 

    Could be a variety of Lysimachia
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    I am thinking Physostegia too.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    @Dovefromabove Yes first thought without reading the thread Obedient Plant.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • nutcutletnutcutlet Posts: 27,445
    another vote for Physostegia


    In the sticks near Peterborough
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