Oh gosh, sorry, I've only just seen other posts on this thread, from Nollie and others, that weren't visible to me when I posted... this often happens here for some reason.. sorry if it seemed I was repeating or opposing any earlier advice given..
I'm not good with design elements, Nollie has advised on that, but I suppose if it was mine, I would be inclined just to go straight up with your rose, as I think it's height you're after? then across the beam at the top? it will get to that height quicker if it's trained upwards, rather than fanned out on trellis, if you see what I mean.. but it's up to you really..
Oh no worries @Marlorena I think we were all answering roughly at the same time so easy to miss ones that just pipped you. I defer to those who know the rose 😊
This was all I was thinking re trellis, not major fanning out, just separating them a bit and giving you something to tie in and guide young growing canes up and over. Might be totally unnecessary, a couple of temporary bamboo sticks pushed in might do the job just as well if you find canes growing in a different direction to what you want:
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Oh no worries @Marlorena I think we were all answering roughly at the same time so easy to miss ones that just pipped you. I defer to those who know the rose 😊
This was all I was thinking re trellis, not major fanning out, just separating them a bit and giving you something to tie in and guide young growing canes up and over. Might be totally unnecessary, a couple of temporary bamboo sticks pushed in might do the job just as well if you find canes growing in a different direction to what you want:
The green lines are exactly what I was planning, so it archs round the top left and over the top beams. I didn't really want to put any trellis in & I didn't want to fix anything to the newly built pergola, it's only a small space so if I could get away without any that would be great.
Oh ok, that looks a good idea... I thought they meant trellis attached to the wall or something.. which would sort of take it in a different direction..
With regards to training the rose upwards do I just leave it until it reaches the pergola then tie bits down or do I need something like a wire kit to keep the rose pushed back whilst supporting it.
Well, you will have to tie the rose to the support as it grows, whether you put trellis up or not. I prefer to use simple green garden string for the purpose as it blends in and disappears behind foliage. I don't like wire, as they can cut into tender rose stems.. but there are various alternatives, and everybody has their way of doing things.. I also have this, which is what they use at David Austin roses I believe..
Well, you will have to tie the rose to the support as it grows, whether you put trellis up or not. I prefer to use simple green garden string for the purpose as it blends in and disappears behind foliage. I don't like wire, as they can cut into tender rose stems.. but there are various alternatives, and everybody has their way of doing things.. I also have this, which is what they use at David Austin roses I believe..
Do consider that trellis idea of Nollie's, I think it's brilliant.
I've been looking at the trellis but it would only be 300mm width due to it being a small space, I don't really want to drill into the pergola but I suppose I could tie the trellis. It's a shame you can't get arching trellis that curves towards the top.
I appreciate all the advice everyone's given me thanks
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Oh gosh, sorry, I've only just seen other posts on this thread, from Nollie and others, that weren't visible to me when I posted... this often happens here for some reason.. sorry if it seemed I was repeating or opposing any earlier advice given..
I'm not good with design elements, Nollie has advised on that, but I suppose if it was mine, I would be inclined just to go straight up with your rose, as I think it's height you're after? then across the beam at the top? it will get to that height quicker if it's trained upwards, rather than fanned out on trellis, if you see what I mean.. but it's up to you really..
This was all I was thinking re trellis, not major fanning out, just separating them a bit and giving you something to tie in and guide young growing canes up and over. Might be totally unnecessary, a couple of temporary bamboo sticks pushed in might do the job just as well if you find canes growing in a different direction to what you want:
I also have this, which is what they use at David Austin roses I believe..
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I appreciate all the advice everyone's given me thanks