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Another 2, what are these please?

IlikeplantsIlikeplants Posts: 894
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Are these good or invasive? I’ve grown the one in the pot from forgotten seed, it got attacked by slugs. 

Second one is the red flowered one which I always thought was red campion until recent thread seems to show different kind of plant. Is this a good plant?

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  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    The 2nd one is Centranthus Ruber.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    Second is Centranthus Ruber a real love it or hate it plant. The root can grow really think and deep . Not enough to go on with one the central area is dead.  I wonder if it is a perennial and again something that could escape. Hope someone will know. 
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    1st. one, impossible to tell.
    Agree re 2.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    Purely a guess of pic 1, but I used to have a clerodendrum which looked similar as it emerged in the spring.
    The leaves had a weird smell of something like gravy...

    There are also similarities to my emerging heliopsis

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    Think I would take the first out of it's pot and repot it in some fresh compost with a little grit and see what happens. Checking that the roots are healthy. I would call it your' wait and see plant' always a bit of fun.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    I was wondering if the first one isn't from the seed you sowed and is perhaps a weed. Coltsfoot?
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • UffUff Posts: 3,199
    If it's this that's growing at the side of my veg bed then it's coltsfoot @Ilikeplants


    SW SCOTLAND but born in Derbyshire
  • IlikeplantsIlikeplants Posts: 894
    As suggested I think I’ll grow the potted one on and check back in hopefully without slug bites when it grows on. I think there’s more shoots there. Hoping it’s a good surprise- ever the optimist!
    The red valerian I’ll keep for now. 
    Thanks all.
  • GardenerSuzeGardenerSuze Posts: 5,692
    Yes it could be coltsfoot. Keep it in a pot as said.
    I have worked as a Gardener for 24 years. My latest garden is a new build garden on heavy clay.
  • IlikeplantsIlikeplants Posts: 894
    Uff said:
    If it's this that's growing at the side of my veg bed then it's coltsfoot @Ilikeplants


    My leaf looks more heart shaped than that @Uff so will see and hope it’s not a thug or weed.
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