@WhereAreMySecateurs, please can you advise how pliable your Perennial Blue is? Would it be suitable for training on an arch?
Hello Victoria, mine is pretty bendy- more so than Tess so far, which I am hoping to train up an arch! I love this bright bee-smothered rose and recommendit- might get biggish though?
Glorious roses, all. Jessica, omg your Rose des Cisterciens. It's so pink and frilly. Love it. Mine is filling up with buds, wondering if it's going to stay predominantly yellow or venture into more pinkness?
@WhereAreMySecateurs yes I have WS2k, but a late buy so it’s still tiny and only given me a couple of blooms so far. Someone else had a mature version, I’m sure it was one of our members in France, but can’t remember who.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Liliana/ Clair will give good flushes of blooms and that white blooms with a soft sea shell pink is a delight... add fragrance to that.. I just love that rose.. awaiting my second flush to open..
@pitter-patter has a way of making the roses appear even more lovely than they normally are.. be it standards or presenting in a Urn..
@Nollie thanks for the heads up on Rose de Molinard.. I too get more rains than south or SE England.. will be interesting to see how mine copes with it.. you are right in that it has produced tall canes (being a 1st year bare root) with buds at the end.. but not a pure HT habit, in the sense, you have clusters of bud and also a bit wider than most HT's I have..Â
I am interested in the fragrance of Rose de Cisterciens.. I am on the look out for a striped rose which is good in flowering and scent.. My 'Thanks a Million' from styles look pretty with lot of buds, but is lacking in fragrance.. might improve with time.. I can smell a mild spicy/ clove fragrance from it..
anyone else having strong winds and heavy rains since yesterday?? morning it just poured for a good 45mins..
Last year, some of you may remember I was inspired by seeing on here how well David Austin and other shrub roses grow in large pots. I bought a large square planter (45x45x45 cms) and 'Eustacia Vye' and was pleased with the rose, it bloomed nicely.
The rose had two strong stems and two or three twiggy ones. I pruned the two strong ones down to about 13 inches in spring and tidied up the twiggy bits. One of the strong canes was at the back of the pot, the other at the front. I replaced the top inch or so of soil/compost and put a handful of rose food around the plant. The side shoots arising from the pruned cane at the back I've managed to support by tying to a wire on the wall, but the three side shoots arising at the front are over two feet long and a few weeks ago I posted a photo showing them growing outward and already blocking the path. They are now full of beautiful blooms, all looking intently at the paving, a mere inch or so below them, as the branch is now so weighed down by them. Such a waste of lovely flowers. I'll have to cut them all off in order to see them.
Did I cause this by -- Pruning too gently? Over feeding? Choosing the wrong rose?
I really wanted a nice rounded shrub rose, not a climber, so avoided 'Gertrude Jekyll', but am disappointed to find this rose has stems too heavy to support themselves as a free standing bush.
I haven't bought David Austin's for years having had problems with a Graham Thomas shrub rose which would put on a good eight feet or more of growth each year and an L.D.Braithwaite that defoliated itself with horrendous blackspot every season. So I was hoping for better luck in a container with a healthy shrub rose.
I would appreciate your thoughts, especially those of you who grow such good roses in containers.
@Woodgreen Is that Eustacia Vye another case of 'octopus' canes? Mine is new this year; and I hope it is not.
Oranges and reds:
Super Trouper, Papa Meilland and Masquerade. Miss Edith Cavell, weighed down by flowers, sparse foliage and that too drying up, unduly affected by the recent heat and rains.
La Rosa de Molinard - another one with canes weighed down by flowers, also spoilt by the rain. I can smell the grapefruit scent though 😊
Oxford. The City of Dreaming Spires.
And then my heart with pleasure fills,
And dances with the daffodils (roses). Taking a bit of liberty with Wordsworth
It was like this when dry, @Omori. The branch I pruned to 13 inches in spring has gradually become horizontal -- it would be flat on the ground in a border. This is how it looked on 7 June,  already growing very much outward, but as all the lovely buds developed it went lower and lower. It has left the centre open, the ideal shape for a gooseberry bush I believe! I could try to find a short obelisk or similar support perhaps for next year, but this branch doesn't want to be lifted up at all now. I just wondered if I had been too soft on the pruning?Â
I wish I had that growth on my Eustacia Vye because mine is a sturdy, short, stumpy fairly upright bush and has rarely been anything different.. last year it did venture out a bit, width wise..
What direction is yours facing? it looks as though it's reaching out for the sun...?
I don't know if they're octopus canes @Eustace. I hope not, as I wanted something that didn't need tying in etc. Maybe I should cut out the forward growing cane at some point, especially if I get any new basals?
The flowers are lovely, it's such a shame to be almost treading on them when I'd hoped to be enjoying the scent at nose level!
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Glorious roses, all. Jessica, omg your Rose des Cisterciens. It's so pink and frilly. Love it. Mine is filling up with buds, wondering if it's going to stay predominantly yellow or venture into more pinkness?
Newbie thanks again for the words about Evelyn, I just managed to order one and William Shakespeare 2k, who has that here? Was it Nollie? Just love the look; and an older one called Bouquet de la Mariée which appears to be made of whipped cream mixed with angel delight? And one "Liliana".. yikes. Trevor White is fiendish because everything is more reasonably priced so you end up buying more than intended and now I will be getting filthy and cold in November casting about the muddy garden trying to find planting spaces for them all.🎻Â
Raining here. I'm so happy.
@Omori that Thomas Becket looks stunning..Â
@pitter-patter has a way of making the roses appear even more lovely than they normally are.. be it standards or presenting in a Urn..
@Nollie thanks for the heads up on Rose de Molinard.. I too get more rains than south or SE England.. will be interesting to see how mine copes with it.. you are right in that it has produced tall canes (being a 1st year bare root) with buds at the end.. but not a pure HT habit, in the sense, you have clusters of bud and also a bit wider than most HT's I have..Â
I am interested in the fragrance of Rose de Cisterciens.. I am on the look out for a striped rose which is good in flowering and scent.. My 'Thanks a Million' from styles look pretty with lot of buds, but is lacking in fragrance.. might improve with time.. I can smell a mild spicy/ clove fragrance from it..
anyone else having strong winds and heavy rains since yesterday?? morning it just poured for a good 45mins..
yes indeed. She is an artist!Â
I bought a large square planter (45x45x45 cms) and 'Eustacia Vye' and was pleased with the rose, it bloomed nicely.
The rose had two strong stems and two or three twiggy ones. I pruned the two strong ones down to about 13 inches in spring and tidied up the twiggy bits. One of the strong canes was at the back of the pot, the other at the front. I replaced the top inch or so of soil/compost and put a handful of rose food around the plant.
The side shoots arising from the pruned cane at the back I've managed to support by tying to a wire on the wall, but the three side shoots arising at the front are over two feet long and a few weeks ago I posted a photo showing them growing outward and already blocking the path. They are now full of beautiful blooms, all looking intently at the paving, a mere inch or so below them, as the branch is now so weighed down by them. Such a waste of lovely flowers. I'll have to cut them all off in order to see them.
Did I cause this by --
Pruning too gently?
Over feeding?
Choosing the wrong rose?
I really wanted a nice rounded shrub rose, not a climber, so avoided 'Gertrude Jekyll', but am disappointed to find this rose has stems too heavy to support themselves as a free standing bush.
I haven't bought David Austin's for years having had problems with a Graham Thomas shrub rose which would put on a good eight feet or more of growth each year and an L.D.Braithwaite that defoliated itself with horrendous blackspot every season. So I was hoping for better luck in a container with a healthy shrub rose.
I would appreciate your thoughts, especially those of you who grow such good roses in containers.
Miss Edith Cavell, weighed down by flowers, sparse foliage and that too drying up, unduly affected by the recent heat and rains.
La Rosa de Molinard - another one with canes weighed down by flowers, also spoilt by the rain. I can smell the grapefruit scent though 😊
This is how it looked on 7 June,
I could try to find a short obelisk or similar support perhaps for next year, but this branch doesn't want to be lifted up at all now.
I just wondered if I had been too soft on the pruning?Â
What direction is yours facing? it looks as though it's reaching out for the sun...?
..my stumpy rose..
Maybe I should cut out the forward growing cane at some point, especially if I get any new basals?
The flowers are lovely, it's such a shame to be almost treading on them when I'd hoped to be enjoying the scent at nose level!