I like the reports about Enchantress, looks like a nice rose and a lovely name, certainly better than Scentuous or Garden Dream (Gartentraume). But I seriously dislike how these German roses always have 3-4 names, I just can't remember them all. German names are usually hard to remember and spell and American names are too simple and too similar and mix together.
Regarding Lovely Parfuma/Summer Romance/Rosengrafin Marie Henriette, this is the scent description from Kordes website: I can detect myrrh, maybe a little bit of spiciness but not much more.
Windy here too, so I add a photo from my mother's garden instead - Grafin Diana/Royal Parfuma/Dark Desire She has become quite a fan of Kordes roses recently.
@peteS - well, a different Northern climate, but I’ve had La Rose de Molinard for 3yrs. It has a vigorous, upright growth habit and the big blooms have strong necks, no drooping. Healthy, glossy foliage. Mine is on an obelisk and about 2ft wide by 5ft high. I’ve seen photos of it pruned as a shrub and it was much wider, so depends how you grow it. The fragrance is to die for, really strong, sweet grapefruit.
The main drawback is that the blooms ball and spoil in rain as the petals are many and fairly thin so that could be an issue for you. It has had some health problems for me, it had a fair amount of inexplicable cane dieback last year, which could be a specific cultivation/climate issue here, but I’m stumped as to what.Â
Photos - the colour would be deeper for you:
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Nice comparison between Enchantress and Lovely Perfuma @Marlorena. I love the form of Enchantress, although I suspect it might be a bit delicate for my climate, the petals look rather fine..
Those fragrance descriptions are useful aren’t they @edhelka (if not the multiple names), if only so you know what you can’t detect! This is Delbard’s for Rose de Molinard, to me it is overwhelmingly like sticking your nose in half a Pamplemouse (grapefruit), maybe a hint of rose but I don’t get the rest..
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
I prefer to use my own nose to try and detect what I can, even if rudimentary, rather than rely on nursery descriptions, as they are in the business of selling, I am not.. besides, 'Classic Rose' or 'Old Rose' doesn't really tell anybody anything much..
David Austin used to employ Robert Calkin of Yardley's perfumery to detail the scents in their roses, coming out with all sorts of undetectable fragrances to most of us.. since he left I notice they are more down to earth these days..Â
As for names, I try to stick with the name given by the vendor, and my country of residence, as that's the name it's going to be sold by for most interested readers.. Confusion exists when nurseries arbitrarily change the names of roses for commercial reasons, a glaring example is 'The Anniversary Rose', which Peter Beales used to sell, up to about 2015 I think, as 'Parfum de Provence'... they then delisted it, so it disappeared for a bit, only to resurface under the newly invented name..
Yet this same rose is still sold in UK by other nurseries as 'Sweet Parfum de Provence'..Â
This sort of thing was frowned upon years ago here, but since the demise of the Royal National Rose Society, anything goes...Â
Updates on some year 1 roses: The omnipresent Julia Child. The flowers are smaller than I imagined, maybe 3" similar to Flanders peeking in from the right. Haven't encountered any scent but I haven't this year with many things, not sure if it is the heat or the post-covid. Vintage Classic. The first two flowers look like this but I think it is my fault as the pot got dryer than I thought. First thoughts were that the colouring is not dissimilar to Princess Anne, a sort of aged dusky rose but will have to study them further to be sure. I've cut down the early perennials around Mme Ernest Calvat. Not sure if it is a typical flower but I like it. I don't have any others with a flower shape like this one. Also the foliage is looking good for saying it had all the sweaty, mildewy geraniums around it. St Dunstan's. I think this will be nice when it is a decent size shrub. First flower on Ulmer Munster. I've just read this is 'derived' from the climber Sympathie which I had on my list to try and grow as a shrub with support. Does anyone think that means it is the same plant? If so I might just move it...
I took that long loading photos I missed your orange and blue combo @Omori, looks fab
Some older favourites: I think these two will make nice path edge partners, new Desdemona next to Gallica officinalis. Plus Desdemona can hide the dying back mess from the Camassias. Lone pinkish white in the background is Mousseline and the red is the stalwart Trumpeter. I think this might be my rose of the year, Goldbusch I moved this one over winter and it seems unperturbed. It now gets an evening sunbeam instead of weak morning sun, Yvonne Rabier.
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But I seriously dislike how these German roses always have 3-4 names, I just can't remember them all. German names are usually hard to remember and spell and American names are too simple and too similar and mix together.
Regarding Lovely Parfuma/Summer Romance/Rosengrafin Marie Henriette, this is the scent description from Kordes website:
I can detect myrrh, maybe a little bit of spiciness but not much more.
Windy here too, so I add a photo from my mother's garden instead - Grafin Diana/Royal Parfuma/Dark Desire
She has become quite a fan of Kordes roses recently.
The main drawback is that the blooms ball and spoil in rain as the petals are many and fairly thin so that could be an issue for you. It has had some health problems for me, it had a fair amount of inexplicable cane dieback last year, which could be a specific cultivation/climate issue here, but I’m stumped as to what.Â
Those fragrance descriptions are useful aren’t they @edhelka (if not the multiple names), if only so you know what you can’t detect! This is Delbard’s for Rose de Molinard, to me it is overwhelmingly like sticking your nose in half a Pamplemouse (grapefruit), maybe a hint of rose but I don’t get the rest..
David Austin used to employ Robert Calkin of Yardley's perfumery to detail the scents in their roses, coming out with all sorts of undetectable fragrances to most of us.. since he left I notice they are more down to earth these days..Â
As for names, I try to stick with the name given by the vendor, and my country of residence, as that's the name it's going to be sold by for most interested readers..Â
Confusion exists when nurseries arbitrarily change the names of roses for commercial reasons, a glaring example is 'The Anniversary Rose', which Peter Beales used to sell, up to about 2015 I think, as 'Parfum de Provence'... they then delisted it, so it disappeared for a bit, only to resurface under the newly invented name..
Yet this same rose is still sold in UK by other nurseries as 'Sweet Parfum de Provence'..Â
This sort of thing was frowned upon years ago here, but since the demise of the Royal National Rose Society, anything goes...Â
The omnipresent Julia Child. The flowers are smaller than I imagined, maybe 3" similar to Flanders peeking in from the right. Haven't encountered any scent but I haven't this year with many things, not sure if it is the heat or the post-covid.
Vintage Classic. The first two flowers look like this but I think it is my fault as the pot got dryer than I thought. First thoughts were that the colouring is not dissimilar to Princess Anne, a sort of aged dusky rose but will have to study them further to be sure.
I've cut down the early perennials around Mme Ernest Calvat. Not sure if it is a typical flower but I like it. I don't have any others with a flower shape like this one. Also the foliage is looking good for saying it had all the sweaty, mildewy geraniums around it.
St Dunstan's. I think this will be nice when it is a decent size shrub.Â
First flower on Ulmer Munster. I've just read this is 'derived' from the climber Sympathie which I had on my list to try and grow as a shrub with support. Does anyone think that means it is the same plant? If so I might just move it...
Some older favourites:
I think these two will make nice path edge partners, new Desdemona next to Gallica officinalis. Plus Desdemona can hide the dying back mess from the Camassias. Lone pinkish white in the background is Mousseline and the red is the stalwart Trumpeter.
I think this might be my rose of the year, Goldbusch
I moved this one over winter and it seems unperturbed. It now gets an evening sunbeam instead of weak morning sun, Yvonne Rabier.
@Mr. Vine Eye, hopefully soon the concert preparation would finish and it would be a great event in school.Â
@Omori, I was admiring your previous photo of Dame Judi dench and this one is looking even better.Â
@Rojas, you have lots of lovely roses and beautiful garden. Please post more photos.Â
Interesting discussion about fragrance and how it changes and how everyone can experience it so differently.Â