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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    My reaction was - oh what a surprise -  another perverted predator in a position of power. 😒

    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Firemen are the same!  What so & so would share pictures of ladies underwear when they are trapped in cars waiting to be rescued,  ‘ let’s take photos before we cut this car open’. Sick. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • steveTu said:
    Of course, but should a water company be looking at populations and climate change? I've been aware for  decades. They've known about this since, what, 1970s?
    Apparently there'll be a potential £1000 fine for using a hosepipe after the ban comes into play, yet this self same company has a leakage rate of nearly 90 million litres a day (compared to 540 million litres usage normally in summer and now since the heat, 630+ million litres), constantly pollutes rivers and the sea with untreated sewage and hasn't built any reservoirs since...?
    And the reservoirs show:

    ...doesn't that imply that there's not enough capacity in the reservoir system?

    How will this ban now not be common place - without the investment?



    I'm in Kent, but being north Kent, we are served by Southern Water, rather than South East Water.
    But, I do feel that we should all react responsibly, and not overuse the resource we have. 
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    It's fairly basic maths.  Lots of people need lots of water so, if current resources don't supply enough to supply the resident population, build reservoirs, improve water capture from building rooftops and make sure new builds, both domestic and industrial/commercial incorporate underground water reservoirs for flushing loos and watering landcsaping.   

    The Victorians spent fortunes investing in water supply and sewage treatment plants so we know it's possible to see beyond the next 3 or 4 years of the political cycle and get things done.   The other option is to stop building in areas of low rainfall.

    Anyway - different curmudge here.  We've just had an earthquake somewhere between Niort and La Rochelle and at 5.5 on the Richter scale.  Apparently the house and contents shook enough for OH to leap up and interrupt his weekly family chat on Whatsapp and go and ask Possum what on earth she was up to.   She was about to dive under her desk for safety.

    I was down the veggie plot communing with my baby PSBs and noticed nothing other than some strange little noises from Bess, our remaining hen.


    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    steveTu said:
    Of course, but should a water company be looking at populations and climate change? I've been aware for  decades. They've known about this since, what, 1970s?
    Apparently there'll be a potential £1000 fine for using a hosepipe after the ban comes into play, yet this self same company has a leakage rate of nearly 90 million litres a day (compared to 540 million litres usage normally in summer and now since the heat, 630+ million litres), constantly pollutes rivers and the sea with untreated sewage and hasn't built any reservoirs since...?
    And the reservoirs show:

    ...doesn't that imply that there's not enough capacity in the reservoir system?

    How will this ban now not be common place - without the investment?



    I'm in Kent, but being north Kent, we are served by Southern Water, rather than South East Water.
    But, I do feel that we should all react responsibly, and not overuse the resource we have. 

    But aren't the water companies providing the resource? I can't go to the local river and drink the water as it's polluted. I have no option but to use their product and they control how much is available (and I have no choice between water companies). It's a bit like a SM saying 'sorry there's no food' because they haven't built enough warehouses to stock the stores in time, but unlike a SM, I don't have a choice as to which one to use.

    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    The underlying problem with water shortages is the lack of investment over many decades.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    KT53 said:
    The underlying problem with water shortages is the lack of investment over many decades.
    And yet they still keep handing money out to the shareholders …

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • steveTu said:
    steveTu said:
    Of course, but should a water company be looking at populations and climate change? I've been aware for  decades. They've known about this since, what, 1970s?
    Apparently there'll be a potential £1000 fine for using a hosepipe after the ban comes into play, yet this self same company has a leakage rate of nearly 90 million litres a day (compared to 540 million litres usage normally in summer and now since the heat, 630+ million litres), constantly pollutes rivers and the sea with untreated sewage and hasn't built any reservoirs since...?
    And the reservoirs show:

    ...doesn't that imply that there's not enough capacity in the reservoir system?

    How will this ban now not be common place - without the investment?



    I'm in Kent, but being north Kent, we are served by Southern Water, rather than South East Water.
    But, I do feel that we should all react responsibly, and not overuse the resource we have. 

    But aren't the water companies providing the resource? I can't go to the local river and drink the water as it's polluted. I have no option but to use their product and they control how much is available (and I have no choice between water companies). It's a bit like a SM saying 'sorry there's no food' because they haven't built enough warehouses to stock the stores in time, but unlike a SM, I don't have a choice as to which one to use.

    Point taken, but we can still act responsibly. We save bathwater and shower water to water the garden. I've never owned a hosepipe or sprinkler. 
    In our previous house I set up a system to drain the water from the shower and bath, straight into a storage tank - if required. In the colder, wetter months, it flowed straight into the drains.
    There's only the two of us most of the time, so washing up gets done once a day. We try to be careful.
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    I still don't understand how we can have laws that say you can't shut off the water supply to a house because it's a necessary utility and yet the suppliers are allowed to milk the system for maximum profits with minimal investment and no one has ended up with severe punishment for this. Privitisation has been tried and it's been proven not to work so there's only really one solution now. The Welsh Water model is working fine so do the same in England.

    We just had a spot of very welcome rain here. Enough to rinse the dust off the plants and moisen things up a bit but not enough to top up the butts yet. Fingers crossed that it keeps trying for a while.
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    I refuse to have a parched garden so shareholders get rich. I'm still using my hose and sprinkler. I live alone, never wash my car, take brief showers,use my dishwasher about every 5 or 6 days. IMHO I don't waste water, I use what I need 
    Devon.
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