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  • UffUff Posts: 3,199
    Thanks for the info fidgetbones. There's the answer then and of course the knock on effect it will have on rising prices. 
    SW SCOTLAND but born in Derbyshire
  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,618
    I only half filled the tank on the car with diesel, expecting the price to drop after xmas. That didn't work well, I noticed today that diesel had gone up another couple of pennies a litre.  Brent crude goes up, diesel goes up, cost of transporting goods goes up, inflation in general goes up.
  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    Uff, of course fairy is correct
     How big is your property,what's it like? I was just curious, because I don't know anything about oil fired heating, don't know anyone who has it
     Looking in the papers and online,it appears the ground and heat source pump systems are enormous. How would they fit them in a studio flat. Replacing fossil fuel systems online they now are talking about hydrogen,as being a good alternative.  
  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
     Looking in the papers and online,it appears the ground and heat source pump systems are enormous. How would they fit them in a studio flat. Replacing fossil fuel systems online they now are talking about hydrogen,as being a good alternative.  
    There's a load of nonsense put out about heat pumps by the gas suppliers who want everyone to wait for the magic rainbow unicorn to solve all the problems with hydrogen. For the foreseeable future, hydrogen is expected to continue to produce more carbon emissions than natural gas.
    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” 
  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    edited January 2022
    this is from one of the installers of ground source heat pumps,says you need an area about the size of an American fridge. Less for the air source, for that an area about the size of a large air conditioning unit. On looking up the scientific facts about hydrogen,it says it's produced by electricity.
  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
    That's big enough for an American house. 
    For a studio flat it would be about this size (the white box)
    See the source image
    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” 
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    I would be reluctant to change our oil system,  so cheap to run, the boiler runs at 98% efficient according to the report I get when the boiler is serviced.
    It heats a tank of water in 30 minutes,  that lasts all day and a bath at night.
    It heats a 5 bedroom, two lounge and 2 bathroom property. 
    I’m sure it must be much cheaper than gas from the posts I’ve read on here. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    Is that yours Raisingirl? Was it already there?  We looked at all sources aspects,am interested. They are hugely expensive. Are they used for the cooking as well? I have electric cooker,some electric fires.which is why we are going to have solar energy installation.
  • UffUff Posts: 3,199
    Uff, of course fairy is correct
     How big is your property,what's it like? I was just curious, because I don't know anything about oil fired heating, don't know anyone who has it  

    As I said in my previous post it's an old cottage. It's 3 bedrooms, one of them I use as a dining room, single story, just over 200 years old and with thick walls. Everyone assumes that they keep the place warm in winter - they don't, they are cold all the time. 

    In winter, depending on the weather I have the tank filled every 6-8 weeks. It's a 1200 litre tank which I never let get less than 200 litres empty. A full tank lasts most of the summer but sometimes (most times) I have to put the heating on for a couple of hours in the evening. It's just been filled this morning and 800 litres went in.
    SW SCOTLAND but born in Derbyshire
  • Bee witchedBee witched Posts: 1,295
    We've just paid 55.9 (inc VAT) for topping up our oil tank.
    This will be our last fill up, as we've ordered an air source heat pump which will be installed in March.
    I accept that this is not an option for everyone. Our home is already extremely well insulated, and we already have underfloor heating, so all we are really changing is the boiler for a heat pump.
    For many older properties there will be costly work involved before they will be suitable for a heat pump.

    The other thing that's not often raised is that you have to pay for the new system to be installed before you can then access government grants. So people have to have a considerable sum of money available  .... either through savings or a loan .... to be able to go ahead with a heat pump.

    I think the government has a lot more thinking to do on this issue.

    Bee x

    Gardener and beekeeper in beautiful Scottish Borders  

    A single bee creates just one twelfth of a teaspoon of honey in her lifetime
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