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Has the World gone mad??

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  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    I always buy seedless grapes.  Avoids having to make a decision whether to swallow or 'eject' the seeds.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I'd agree @JennyJ. There must be thousands of people in a similar position. It also allows a lot of people, like that lady, to have more independence, because they can cook for themselves rather than relying on ready meals etc, which is far better for their health - both physical and mental.  :)

    I just swallowed them @KT53. Life's too short... :D
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    I hate that bitter taste when you bite into grape seeds. Has anyone invented the seedless pomegranate? Now that's one I'd try.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    B3 said:
    I hate that bitter taste when you bite into grape seeds. Has anyone invented the seedless pomegranate? Now that's one I'd try.

    It's already here https://www.tesco.com/groceries/en-GB/products/266828570 :D

  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    That's not the same. Grape juice isn't the same as seedless grapes either 
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698
    Fairygirl said:
    Before anyone says it - the prepacked mushrooms were also dearer than the frozen ones, so it wouldn't even have been worth buying them, and slicing and freezing them myself, or I'd have done that.
    Something wrong there... :/
    It probably reflects the fact that there is substantially less wastage with frozen food. I'd also rather buy frozen veg or meat than have it go bad in the fridge.
    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • biofreakbiofreak Posts: 1,089
    I think you are all missing the point here..as gardeners do we really want to see these varieties of veg and fruit being produced when we should be promoting the originals which as most of you have pointed out are more expensive. I know it is eventually down to personal choice but surely we don't want generations to come not even know how to peel or cut something?☹️☹️☹️ Let alone the promotion of sugary tastes which will turn into a dentist's nightmare. Give me a good old fashioned carrot to crunch anytime.
  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    “We should be promoting the originals”. Why should we? We should be preserving the originals, which we do through the world-beating Millennium Seed Bank at Kew. But when it comes to our own gardens we have the right to pick what suits us best. If a modern F1 variety suits me better because it has enhanced flavour, shorter growing season, better disease resistance, is more floriferous or is easier to tend then that is what I shall choose.

    “We don’t want generations to come not even know how to peel or cut something”. That’s an extraordinary leap. Do you genuinely think this is likely? When the car was invented did we forget how to walk? When the oven and central heating systems were invented did we forget how to make open fires?

    This has been an interesting debate, @biofreak, and it has taken us down some entertaining byways so thank you for raising it but I am afraid I do not agree with your fundamental premise.
    Rutland, England
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    It mostly comes down to practicality. As @BenCotto says, what suits one person in terms of their garden, climate, time and finances, won't be the same as someone else's. However,  the vast majority of people buy most of their food from a supermarket, and
    I can't see them all suddenly deciding to sell products which are much more expensive to produce [and therefore to sell ] because of their nature/habit/requirements, which will be the case of many heirloom varieties. 
    Gardeners can choose to grow all sorts of things if they want, and can afford it [not just financially] but it's their choice to do that. Many people simply don't have that choice - and that includes lots of gardeners.   :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • PosyPosy Posts: 3,601
    As I understand it, some modern varieties were developed for large scale growing,  producing a large, uniform crop over a short period. It has been said that their nutritional value and flavour are poorer.
    On the other hand, they are reliable and much more varied than in the old days.
    It's tempting to think that old means good in itself, but not necessarily true. And we all remember when sprouts were a penance,  don't we? I think it's best to grow what works for us: if new varieties are better there is little point in growing the old ones just because Grandad did.
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