Tony Blair? PLEASE!!!!! We call him CID..... Conservative in disguise. There is nothing about him that is for the people in any way.... take it from the people who truly have nothing to put in an ISA! People that have no clue about poverty lecturing on this subject is making my blood boil and confirming that I'm better off on purely gardening threads.
Of course it is, but poverty is not a prerequisite for being a labour party supporter and Tony Blair's government did more to lift people out of poverty than any government before or since.
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It's OK, I've decided this forum isn't the place for me. It's been an interesting time but think I've had enough now. I may pop in to the gardening threads but I don't think I being here. Thank you everyone 😀
Actually @punkdoc I think that may have been the Conservatives in the 50s. Remember "You've never had it so good"? In those days my mum was a health visitor and then a district nurse and her tales of the poverty she saw being uplifted by council housing and introducing indoor toilets and a proper bath still stay with me. One family she visited had no idea what to do with the bath so kept coal in it.
As for tax avoidance, yes it's legal and anyone sensible would minimise their tax burden but for wealthy people to employ advisers who then send their money offshore to avoid tax is unethical and disingenuous, especially in a top Labour politician. He also sent his kids to private school didn't he? Didn't think the comprehensives were good enough.
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I don't think Tony Blair was perfect, far from it (who is?), but I do think his government did better than any since and than the ones that I remember before. I can't really comment on anything before about the mid-70s though.
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I would say that it's not a child's fault which school his parents send him to ... but it is very hard to understand what it's really really like to live in poverty if you've never done it.
I would also say that, while I understand that most parents want the best education and opportunities for their children, while those who can afford it send their children to private schools where their experience and understanding of the world is hugely limited, state education in the UK will never be able to offer our children the same opportunities.
If only people who happily spend their money on private education for their children, instead sent their children to state schools and spent time and effort engaging with the state education process enough to 'level it up' then every child would have more opportunies in life.
When I'm in charge there'll be no private or religious schools ... all children will be educated together ....... but it won't be a democracy will it?
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'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.
George Bernard Shaw'
When you don't even know who's in the team
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When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
As for tax avoidance, yes it's legal and anyone sensible would minimise their tax burden but for wealthy people to employ advisers who then send their money offshore to avoid tax is unethical and disingenuous, especially in a top Labour politician. He also sent his kids to private school didn't he? Didn't think the comprehensives were good enough.
I would also say that, while I understand that most parents want the best education and opportunities for their children, while those who can afford it send their children to private schools where their experience and understanding of the world is hugely limited, state education in the UK will never be able to offer our children the same opportunities.
If only people who happily spend their money on private education for their children, instead sent their children to state schools and spent time and effort engaging with the state education process enough to 'level it up' then every child would have more opportunies in life.
When I'm in charge there'll be no private or religious schools ... all children will be educated together ....... but it won't be a democracy will it?
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Steady on @punkdoc. Its not personal. Its just opinion which we are all free to express.
I don't think its so much about the Labour Government of the time, but about the man.
The Government was not Tony Blair. The Government of the day did do a lot of good, but they also failed to roll back a lot of the Tory changes.
If you had said the Labour Government of that time was good I would have agreed with you to a degree. But Blair, Blair may have done some good, but then there's the Iraq war and going to war knowingly on false information which brings into question the morality of the man. and the subsequent deaths of thousands of people.
Also subsequent events regarding his business empire do not show him in a good light.
'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.
George Bernard Shaw'