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  • raisingirlraisingirl Posts: 7,093
    The rule-maker has to be compliant to the letter of the law they made. Others get a little more latitude. I am not sure whether Boris is blase or actually oblivious.

    I'm not a big fan of Wee Jimmy Crankie but she's doing better at the mea culpas in all this. No one is likely to have managed to 100% comply with the complicated and often ill thought out rules. As of now, it's so complicated I'd be amazed if anyone living close to one of our internal national borders is managing to abide by them all. Nevertheless, this attitude of refusing to acknowledge the infringement is becoming deeply infuriating. Wait for the enquiry? Could he not just check his diary? Meh


    Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon

    “It's still magic even if you know how it's done.” 
  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,618
    Not sure how many friends wee crankie has with cancelling going out for New Year. Enough people left the country temporarily to get round it.
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    But that's insane Lyn. Law only works by consensus. Just because something is law doesn't mean people still don't do it. Theft, murder, fraud - they all still occur don't they? What makes the difference is being caught - so if someone was caught defecating in public, I would hope they were prosecuted.
    As for social distancing, I thought that was only advisory, but again, even if it were law, then it wasn't only on the beaches that it was flaunted. You just had to go into any supermarket and I guarantee there'd be at least one person not obeying. I think I recall police checking with people in parks and moving on groups being on the news.
    If labour politicians have partied and broken the social gathering laws, then they should also be punished IMO. There's no difference, whether it's the Queen or her family or Joe Bloggs up the pub. People were fined because of this.
    But again that isn't the issue so much here is it? We have a leader, a man who was making these rules - and on his watch - just to name the high profile cases - we have Cummings and his goings, Hancock and his version of Rodin's the kiss. Boris then denies such things and implied by his responses - to Parliament - that nothing that broke Covid law was done in way of parties. OK, he could be forgiven in saying that at the time they were talking Christmas parties, and this party was in May - so he didn't techically lie as he wasn't specifically asked about that. But that is lying by omission isn't it? He knew the question was about partying, not when it happened. If it is true that he went along to one with his wife, that is just appalling. The man breeds a culture of lying and deceit - and if that is really what you want from any political leader, irrespective of their political colour - then worry about what you may then get. What then is the difference between a Putin and a Trump? A Boris and a Trump? Boris was using law - and therefore control - to control others, while he then ignored the law with apparent impunity.

    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    Hostafan1 said:
    There are none so blind as those who will not see
    Many of them saw @Hostafan1 ... but winning was more important to them than their principles ... so they held their noses and made him leader ... then others saw him as the least worst option ... never a good reason to elect a leader.   As I've said before, the majority of the electorate got what it deserved ... let's hope they learn from their mistakes.  Certainly the honest decent (if misguided IMHO) Tories I know (and I know quite a few who vote that way) were incandescent with rage when I spoke to them yesterday ... 

    I would suggest that most parties have elected the 'least worst' option as leader over the past several decades.  Look at the pledges and promises so many have made, and compare that to their actions.  Few, if any, look good.  I'm no fan of Boris and never have been.  Even if he acted within the letter of the rules, and I don't believe for one second that he did, he has absolutely no credibility any more.
    The question then is "Who the hell do you replace him with"?
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    pansyface said:
    Dilyn the Dog.
    Dylan the Magic Roundabout Rabbit couldn't be any worse then Bojo the clown.
    Devon.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I hate to be a pedant but - it's Krankie.... ;)

    "Who the hell do you replace him with"?
    Stevie Wonder

    I know I keep saying it but, even he could see the problems.

    That DUP MP  [who'd have thought we'd have sympathy for them?] was heart breaking to watch. 
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    When my children made an apology like that I would turn them around, send them back and say, ...'Do it again ... and this time say it as if you mean it!'   

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    if  he's to be " in the round " maybe he could start by  getting a refund on the £38,000,000,000.00 of tax payers' money he gave to his friends and party donors to give us Trace and Trace, which never ever worked?
    Devon.
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    An ar** about face apology eh? He basically accused the people who think he was part of a party, that they have misinterpreted what occurred. It was not a party. His apology was only in that he should have made the event more obviously a work event. Delay. He hopes that by the time the inquiry report comes out, there is some other thing taking up the public's concern.
    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    His greed, arrogance , lies, deception and outstanding ego made him think he was fit to be PM. There was clearly nothing more than that outcome that he sought and now he has been found out to be utterly not up to the job. 
    If the best defense of his behaviour is that person X would have been EVEN WORSE, you know he's not got a leg to stand on.
    Devon.
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