Some friends of ours did everything themselves, no undertaker/funeral director, just book a slot at the crematorium.
That sounds good. I suppose the biggest hurdle is getting the paperwork needed for a cremation quickly enough to avoid the need for lengthy storage. I suppose an amenable undertaker could quote for a shroud and cold storage, plus discrete transportation to a crematorium. Whether many would be interested is another matter, when there are more lucrative customers to deal with. Worth asking a few?
It can't be that expensive to hire a van for the day. £50-60 plus fuel maybe? Probably more if you want one with refrigeration
One question though. If you collect the body from somewhere and they give you the paperwork etc, how does the crem know you've then brought along the correct body?
If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
KT53,it wasn't a written article we were talking about,it's Morgan Sanders, journalist. Weekly programs called "The Truth About.......this one was electric cars. I think ITV
Dispatches on Ch4 had a programme about them last week too. "battery degredation" seemed a big issue. "Don't charge over 80%, don't let it go below 20%" Second hand car with 80% charge had a range of 38 miles.
On one of the motoring programmes they were looking at 2nd hand electric cars, the life expectancy and replacement cost of batteries. The two examples they gave had a life expectancy of 8 years and replacement cost of £5k for Nissan and £10k for VW. Not many petrol cars require the equivalent of a new engine every 8 years.
Maybe so @Lyn but the deceased person really is beyond caring.
That's my view on life Obelixx. I've told my wife that my funeral should be done as cheaply as possible and will research the options. I have no family left so the only people who would care would be her, her sister and the sister's two kids.
Maybe so @Lyn but the deceased person really is beyond caring.
I have neither need , nor desire to expect folk to travel from all over the place to spend a day being thoroughly miserable . I'd much rather get them all together later and have some fun. IMHO it's just another way to suck max bucks from gullible consumers.
The 1.20 funeral we attended wasn't a miserable affair at all. Sad yes for her immediate family but for us it was a chance to meet members of my wife's extended family they weren't even aware of until about 10 years ago. It turns out the lady who died was my wife's aunt and had been given up for adoption at age 6 and nobody in the family spoke about it. My wife knew nothing of her. The lady knew she had been adopted and her son did all the research.
My OH is adamant that a cremation and no service whatsoever. He agreed that I could have a party and invite family and friends. I'll probably keep him in a pot and when I go it'll be in a wicker box, buried under a tree. The children can scatter his ashes over me.
Direct cremation here costs £1,077, the crematorium cost is what bumps the money up and you’d have to pay that if you did it yourself. I do think that’s bad.
Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor.
@raisingirl, I think the point being made was everything that is manufactured has a carbon debt, including fridges washing machine cars electric or not. The longer you keep it after a time the item itself is not contributing any more Co2 to the atmosphere only the fuel you put in. Electric cars start with more Co2 debt, because of what's in them , mostly the battery. Electric cars are about 30% heavier than conventional ones so are less efficient, more tyre and brake wear etc etc. Not all electricity generation is clean, not by a long way, so they are constantly adding to Co2 in spite of the claims. Housing adds more CO2 than most car usage, cement production is one of the dirtiest things in this respect but no-one is suggesting we stop that. His point was it's a false sop to the environmental issues to suggest we all scrap our existing cars and replace them with electric, it will make thing worse in the short to medium term. I don't agree with all of his arguments but we do need to think wider than just banning new petrol cars.
"Electric cars are about 30% heavier than conventional ones so are less efficient"
Wrong on both counts I'm afraid. The batteries generally weigh no more than the engine in an ICE vehicle, and as for brake wear on BEV's its practically none existent. Pads on BEV's are lasting 100,000 miles before replacement as its the electric motor that does the braking.
'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.
KT53,it wasn't a written article we were talking about,it's Morgan Sanders, journalist. Weekly programs called "The Truth About.......this one was electric cars. I think ITV
Dispatches on Ch4 had a programme about them last week too. "battery degredation" seemed a big issue. "Don't charge over 80%, don't let it go below 20%" Second hand car with 80% charge had a range of 38 miles.
On one of the motoring programmes they were looking at 2nd hand electric cars, the life expectancy and replacement cost of batteries. The two examples they gave had a life expectancy of 8 years and replacement cost of £5k for Nissan and £10k for VW. Not many petrol cars require the equivalent of a new engine every 8 years.
"Electric cars are about 30% heavier than conventional ones so are less efficient"
Wrong on both counts I'm afraid. The batteries generally weigh no more than the engine in an ICE vehicle, and as for brake wear on BEV's its practically none existent. Pads on BEV's are lasting 100,000 miles before replacement as its the electric motor that does the braking.
1) I thought that EVs in general were heavier than their counterparts.
2) I also thought they needed more powerful brakes because of that (their weight) - and that their stopping distances were also then affected accordingly. Doesn't then longer stopping distances imply the braking isn't as efficient? And if you have to expend extra energy to carry the 'extra' fuel (for a smaller range), that in itself is inefficient isn't it (a bit like athletes - 100m, big brawny and full of instant power, 26mile, thin & skinny as carrying the excess weight is counter productive)?
What Car had some info on the braking distances and there's a site that gives EV weights.
I am all for going electric, but I'm still not convinced that the large battery model is the way forward. But we'll go that way because that's the quick fix - and maybe that's right at this point. I still see induction charging on the move and smaller batteries for off grid as a better way, but that's not there yet.
Posts
On one of the motoring programmes they were looking at 2nd hand electric cars, the life expectancy and replacement cost of batteries. The two examples they gave had a life expectancy of 8 years and replacement cost of £5k for Nissan and £10k for VW. Not many petrol cars require the equivalent of a new engine every 8 years.
That's my view on life Obelixx. I've told my wife that my funeral should be done as cheaply as possible and will research the options. I have no family left so the only people who would care would be her, her sister and the sister's two kids.
The 1.20 funeral we attended wasn't a miserable affair at all. Sad yes for her immediate family but for us it was a chance to meet members of my wife's extended family they weren't even aware of until about 10 years ago. It turns out the lady who died was my wife's aunt and had been given up for adoption at age 6 and nobody in the family spoke about it. My wife knew nothing of her. The lady knew she had been adopted and her son did all the research.
I do think that’s bad.
Allotment Boy
"Electric cars are about 30% heavier than conventional ones so are less efficient"
Wrong on both counts I'm afraid. The batteries generally weigh no more than the engine in an ICE vehicle, and as for brake wear on BEV's its practically none existent. Pads on BEV's are lasting 100,000 miles before replacement as its the electric motor that does the braking.
'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.
George Bernard Shaw'
You might find this interesting.
'The power of accurate observation .... is commonly called cynicism by those that have not got it.
George Bernard Shaw'