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  • Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 347
    edited October 2021
    punkdoc said:
    Sorry scientific evidence like this, which is what reputable arborists practice, is not something doghouse would follow, unless he'd thought of it first.
    People like him will never admit that there is even a small possibility that they are wrong. Whatever he does is correct, he tells us that. Silicone was correct, because he used it and the tree thrived.
    My Gran smoked 100 a day and lived till she was 98, therefore smoking is not bad for you.
    As for giving an example of someone using silicone, where it didn't work, ARE YOU REALLY SERIOUS.

    In medicine we used to use trephines for letting at the bad humours from the head, we don't anymore, for fairly obvious reasons. The fact that we once did it, and now don't, shows how the world moves on........except for some people.
    Science at its best.

    Aren't you taking all this a bit too seriously?

    Bur I'm glad for you that your gran lived to a ripe old age.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    is it extreme stupidity or extreme arrogance when someone sits in a minority of one and still maintains they're right and everyone else is wrong?
    Devon.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    Both @Hostafan1.
    The handy ignore button is the way to go with this. I don't even need to 'un ignore' to have a good idea of what's been going on here.  :)

    Follow the sound advice given by the experienced gardeners  @Edixon0509 and you should be fine. Good luck with it.  :)
    It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....



    I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
  • JoeXJoeX Posts: 1,783
    edited October 2021
    BenCotto said:
    Read this and see if you still care to dispute the argument against sealing

    https://extension.tennessee.edu/publications/Documents/SP683.pdf
    I’ve read this,  while it is a set of recommendations from a reputable source it isn’t scientific evidence.  It refers to two research papers from the 1980s by Shigo one of which is here:

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/250802426_Compartmentalization_of_Decay_in_Trees

    Later studies seem to say that a plastic wrap promotes callus formation

    https://www.researchgate.net/publication/242621182_Polyethylene_plastic_wrap_for_tree_wounds_A_promoter_of_wound_closure_on_fresh_wounds

    It seems that there is a balance of the speed of callus formation, compartmentalisation (a process by which the wounded area inside the tree is walled off to protect the rest), and the release of chemicals or enzymes to reduce infection.

    What I’m reading is that whilst “sealing” the wound is not ideal and slows some of the processes neither does it cause certain death.  If one were to go against RHS advice at all I would look into the use of plastic wraps further, there are also lots of other papers on the subject - I couldn’t read them all this morning :)
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    Nothing in life is 100% black or white.
    All we should do in horticulture, as in other areas of our life, is to take the current best advice, from the appropriate experts, and that, at the moment is, do not cover wounds.

    Would you rather, when deciding whether or not to have a COVID vaccination, take the advice of your Dr., or, the advice of a bloke, who hadn't had it, but said he was right, because he hadn't caught COVID.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
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