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  • Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 347
    edited October 2021
    punkdoc said:
    I thought you didn't do personal attacks @Doghouse Riley

    That certainly appears to be one to me, AND for your information I have asked, as I have regular need for a tree surgeon, having a small wood with many mature and other trees.

    The advice was as gyouiven, so stop being so bloody rude. It is true that a Leopard  never changes its spots.
    Read your own post, you doubted some clear evidence of something that worked.
    wth a vague  unsubstantiated comment.

    You obviously haven't asked "them" about the use of silicone, or you'd have said, you just "guessed."

    Even then you could have got conflicting opinions anyway.

    So I wasn't impressed.
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    And your evidence is.......... oh yes you have done a trial of one.
    As others have said, what you did is not recommended, it worked, which is great, but is not the best thing to do.
    Silicone will not be any different from any other impermeable cover.
    Obviously you will not acknowledge, that you might just have been lucky and that what you did might have been wrong.
    I don't really care whether you are impressed or not, the poster wants the best advice possible, and that would be, DO NOT COVER WOUNDS IN TREES OR SHRUBS.

    I don't suppose you will apologise for your rudeness to me, although you are very quick to jump down others throats, when you think they have been rude to you.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?pid=325

     "We no longer recommend binding, wrapping or painting pruning cuts, the best thing is to let them heal naturally."

    but hey. what does the RHS know?
    Devon.
  • Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 347
    edited October 2021
    Hostafan1 said:
    https://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?pid=325

     "We no longer recommend binding, wrapping or painting pruning cuts, the best thing is to let them heal naturally."

    but hey. what does the RHS know?

    So what changed?

    The "key" is in the words,  "no longer."

    Sounds like the actions of  an organation who are concerned about any possible litigation against them for a practice they obviously previously recommended for years.


    It's the way of the world now.


    But it's just an  opinion, that no one could even be  bothered to seek out before dismissing  something which I'd shown actually worked.

    But there you go.

  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    The whole world moves on and often learns that some new methods actually work better. 
    Maybe some folk should try moving with the times rather than living in the past with their heads in the sand, oblivious to what other people consider " progress " .
    Devon.
  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    edited October 2021
    @Doghouse Riley - you did not show your technique worked, you showed in this instance it did no harm. There’s quite a difference.

    Gardening is riddled with old wives’ tales and dubious practices repeated ad infinitum but rarely scientifically tested by those who promote them. Objective, scientific testing shows that double digging is not beneficial, that the sun shining on raindrops and scorching leaves is just bunkum, that gravel in the base of pots to aid drainage is tosh, that coffee grounds, eggshells and coarse grit deter slugs … yeah, and so does showing slugs videos of Morris dancing, and that cut and damaged trunks need sealing.

    My parents believed ardently in all these (apart from the folk dancing) but they also lived in an era where smoking was seen as beneficial, lead additives in petrol were excellent and, for my mother at least, Catholic priests did no wrong.

    Like most others, I have moved on.
    Rutland, England
  • Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 347
    edited October 2021
    BenCotto said:
    @Doghouse Riley - you did not show your technique worked, you showed in this instance it did no harm. There’s quite a difference.


     It depends on your perspective, neither did it show it didn't work.

    There's "the difference."

    Can you give me an example of someone actually using silicone that didn't work?

    I thought not, so let's move on.
  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    Read this and see if you still care to dispute the argument against sealing

    https://extension.tennessee.edu/publications/Documents/SP683.pdf
    Rutland, England
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    Sorry scientific evidence like this, which is what reputable arborists practice, is not something doghouse would follow, unless he'd thought of it first.
    People like him will never admit that there is even a small possibility that they are wrong. Whatever he does is correct, he tells us that. Silicone was correct, because he used it and the tree thrived.
    My Gran smoked 100 a day and lived till she was 98, therefore smoking is not bad for you.
    As for giving an example of someone using silicone, where it didn't work, ARE YOU REALLY SERIOUS.

    In medicine we used to use trephines for letting at the bad humours from the head, we don't anymore, for fairly obvious reasons. The fact that we once did it, and now don't, shows how the world moves on........except for some people.
    Science at its best.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • Doghouse RileyDoghouse Riley Posts: 347
    edited October 2021
    BenCotto said:
    Read this and see if you still care to dispute the argument against sealing

    https://extension.tennessee.edu/publications/Documents/SP683.pdf

    Why?  I don't need to, the situation was resolved. I presented evidence to prove it. I thought it worked, you're suggesting it didn't? 

    Dispute it all you like, it really doesn't matter one way or the other, or does it?
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