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  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    Gwenr said:
    Well I'd like a few less in my garden and as I've now got these very large green celler ones as well, it's becoming a bit overwhelming, but I won't use pellets. My nextdoor neighbour had a toad in her garden, I was green with envy, toads love eating slugs, but she found it dead on her grass one morning not long after scattering pellets down to protect her beans, such a shame.
    Do you have a pond? 
    Create a pond the frogs , toads, hedgehogs, thrushes and blackbirds will love you for it
    Devon.
  • GwenrGwenr Posts: 150
    Hostafan1 said:
    Gwenr said:
    Well I'd like a few less in my garden and as I've now got these very large green celler ones as well, it's becoming a bit overwhelming, but I won't use pellets. My nextdoor neighbour had a toad in her garden, I was green with envy, toads love eating slugs, but she found it dead on her grass one morning not long after scattering pellets down to protect her beans, such a shame.
    Do you have a pond? 
    Create a pond the frogs , toads, hedgehogs, thrushes and blackbirds will love you for it
    Yes we have a large wildlife pond in the wildlife area and our fish pond although reduced in considerable size and no longer containing fish is close to the patio doors.
    We've always had ponds and in the last four years have had an amazing amount of beautiful Newts and a great many frogs, but a Toad would be brilliant. 
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    If there's one toad in the area there'll be others around ... toads are no respecters of boundaries, but they're not easily spotted ... however ... if you have newts in your pond that will cut down the numbers of frogs and toads for the future ... they eat the spawn. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • GwenrGwenr Posts: 150
    If there's one toad in the area there'll be others around ... toads are no respecters of boundaries, but they're not easily spotted ... however ... if you have newts in your pond that will cut down the numbers of frogs and toads for the future ... they eat the spawn. 
    Yes I know, but I leave it to nature to decide on numbers, we had one year when there were frogs everywhere, I was concerned that with so many they would have problems finding food, but mother nature sorted that problem out.
    We also have a great amount of weed and plants in both ponds and still get plenty of frogs, various sizes and colours, not every bit of frog spawn gets eaten.
    When we had to do some work on the cascade, house end, we found seven frogs underneath the cascade, I was quite surprised, but we've seen no toads since the neighbours some years ago.
  • WoodgreenWoodgreen Posts: 1,273
    I don't have a pond, but do have a stream with fairly fast flowing water, not suitable for amphibians breeding.
    There are always frogs of all sizes in the longer grass, and in borders. Sometimes I come across newts, I have seen tiny ones just recently by my house wall. I am told they burrow down into the old footings for the warmth in the winter. And there have always been toads here, they are to be found in outbuildings, underneath stones or anywhere where they can be cool in summer. Wherever they breed, they travel quite a distance to get here as there is no standing water close by.
    They are here because the conditions suit them. The mown areas and the longer grass teem with little slugs, but the big slugs don't seem to be eaten, so I look for those on damp evenings and dispatch them.

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Gwenr said:
    If there's one toad in the area there'll be others around ... toads are no respecters of boundaries, but they're not easily spotted ... however ... if you have newts in your pond that will cut down the numbers of frogs and toads for the future ... they eat the spawn. 
    Yes I know, but I leave it to nature to decide on numbers, 
    Oh yes, there is absolutely no point in doing anything else in a domestic garden  :)

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Gwenr said:
    Well I'd like a few less in my garden and as I've now got these very large green celler ones as well, it's becoming a bit overwhelming, but I won't use pellets. My nextdoor neighbour had a toad in her garden, I was green with envy, toads love eating slugs, but she found it dead on her grass one morning not long after scattering pellets down to protect her beans, such a shame.
    I agree but at the risk of repeating myself, correct and careful use of any toxic material is a must. Your neighbour needs educating on this particular subject which you could perhaps do in a pleasant manner.  Maybe mention in passing that he/she is also wasting money by scattering indiscriminately as well as putting other wildlife at risk. Sometimes the "cash" issue may make someone think twice if nothing else does.
    Don't forget tho that Frogs/Toads can succomb to disease as well as poison so whilst it sounds a good possibility, don't be too quick to jump to conclusions without some specific evidence.
    Fair enough when you say "but I won't use pellets" - we all have a line which we won't cross.  
  • GwenrGwenr Posts: 150
    Gwenr said:
    Well I'd like a few less in my garden and as I've now got these very large green celler ones as well, it's becoming a bit overwhelming, but I won't use pellets. My nextdoor neighbour had a toad in her garden, I was green with envy, toads love eating slugs, but she found it dead on her grass one morning not long after scattering pellets down to protect her beans, such a shame.
    I agree but at the risk of repeating myself, correct and careful use of any toxic material is a must. Your neighbour needs educating on this particular subject which you could perhaps do in a pleasant manner.  Maybe mention in passing that he/she is also wasting money by scattering indiscriminately as well as putting other wildlife at risk. Sometimes the "cash" issue may make someone think twice if nothing else does.
    Don't forget tho that Frogs/Toads can succomb to disease as well as poison so whilst it sounds a good possibility, don't be too quick to jump to conclusions without some specific evidence.
    Fair enough when you say "but I won't use pellets" - we all have a line which we won't cross.  
    My neighbour is 90 years old bless her and is worth her weight in gold with her kindness, but apart from feeding the birds, she has no interest in any other wildlife, the only thing she will say is 'what will be, will be'. So although I have tried very gently to explain about the pellets, it's what she has always done and will probably always do.
    Regarding other frog deaths. At our last garden we lost a lot of frogs to red leg, I think it was all over the country, I remember it was on the news, but the toad that died had no signs of any red leg or anything else, but as you say, it is sensible to keep an open mind.
    My only concern is my neighbour has a friend who visits with the most adorable little dog and he has the run of my neighbours garden.
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