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New pemstemon plants - when to plant out

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  • dappledshadedappledshade Posts: 1,017
    Are there other purple penstemons that are as hardy as Garnet, by the way?
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    edited October 2021
    That clump has been there for about 5 years now.
    They don't have rhizomes, just ordinary roots. Garnet is the only one I've noticed that spreads in this way. - Maybe I need to check the others!
    I occasionally lose a couple of other varieties of penstemon over the winter due to wet, but Garnet does especially well in that usually hot and dry spot. I've got 5-6 other patches of them here and there.
    I've had a couple of patches of P. serrulatus for about 15 years now.
    I've lost a couple of Raven to wet soil over winter, same with White Bedder, but I can't recall one ever just dying even in a harsh winter. Most of my plants are 5-6 or more years old now and still doing fine!

    Another one that does well here is P.Hidcote Pink (with a Raven in the middle)


    PS - just seen your post above.
    I find them all hardy here in Essex.
    Raven os the only purple one I have, but there's a garden round the corner that has a purple one a bit short than Raven that has no white in the throat and that's been there for many years too - I've no idea of the name.

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • dappledshadedappledshade Posts: 1,017
    That bed is glorious Pete! I need to track myself down some of those extra tough ones next year…my bed isn’t as sunny as yours sounds though. 
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    I don't think you'll have any worries about hardiness in N. London - it's the roots sitting in wet cold soil over a long period in winter that usually does for them.

    My quest next year is to get some more blue varieties

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
  • dappledshadedappledshade Posts: 1,017
    Ooh yes, blue in any plant is always good.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Try as many as you can. Some work. Some don't. At least you're not battling slugs - just weather, soil and other variables😉
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 12,585
    The only other blue one l can think of is "Catherine de la Mare".
    https://www.gardenersworld.com/plants/penstemon-heterophyllus-catherine-de-la-mare/

    That Heavenly Blue certainly lives up to it's name !

  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    And there's sour grapes.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • Pete.8Pete.8 Posts: 11,340
    edited October 2021
    That's stunning @pitter-patter - that's definitely on the list
    A carefully placed support would stop it sprawling
    The other one I'm aware of is Electric Blue
    The Catherine de la Mare is a similar colour to the Cascade penstemons I have

    Oh yes - I had Sour Grapes many years ago. Lovely blue flowers, but fade to pink quite soon as I remember

    Billericay - Essex

    Knowledge is knowing that a tomato is a fruit.
    Wisdom is not putting it in a fruit salad.
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