You just keep missing the whole point. It's not about 'picking plants you like'. Plants have to suit the site and conditions. Therefore, you research that first.
If a garden is predominantly north facing, and surrounded by trees, or buildings, there isn't much point picking plants that like full sun. I'll leave you to it then . I clearly know nothing.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
I have said on here before that one of my recordings for Desert Island Discs would have to be the late great Geoffrey Smith waxing lyrical on GQT about the plants he would choose for a shady garden …. the image he conjured up was absolutely beautiful.
In my garden the sunniest spot is for fruit and veg as most of them do best in sun.
The next two sunniest areas are for sitting out in and container plants that need sun for half of the day … one is sunny in the morning and shaded in the evening and the other in reverse. That gives us a choice of where to sit.
The rest of the garden is more shady than not for at least half of the year. It is full of colourful and beautiful flowers and shrubs.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
The TROLL made up a new BS thing to save face and troll when it turned out that the first undercutting lie she made up FAILED MISERABLY with PROOF. The second made up thing is just as false as the first lie she got caught with.
It is abundantly clear from the pictures that there is space well clear of the building that get amazing sun. My trees are right in my garden, not on far away like that. It is a heaven for flowering sun loving trees and plants. Once established, the plants send shoots upwards first to catch the best sun.
So, as I said in my original post and have done many times, pick the best sun catching points in the garden for the best flowering plants and trees.
Dear God By the way - I wasn't talking about the OP's garden as such. I was merely illustrating a point by saying that if a garden was all in shade, you wouldn't plant sun lovers. That you look at the site and conditions and then work out the most suitable plants. The same would apply for a south facing, completely open site. You choose what suits the conditions. You seem to be deliberately trying to cause twist what people say. I really don't understand why. I'm not responding further. It's like banging my head off a wall.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Any of that made up stuff is not applicable because this is a garden with good light. Mine is a 4 storey building, with 2 floors for me and 2 for the lady who lives above me. The trees are right in my garden.
Hence, one can pick the best flowers and trees one likes as seed to make it a heaven on a budget.
The sighing, huffing & puffing, and mockery are all false forms of argument.
We aren't psychic. No-one was even talking about your garden.It was a general statement on an approach that makes sense and that many people follow with success.
Maybe your garden does have good light. Maybe it is sunny and that means you can grow the sun-lovers you love. Lucky you.
Many other people have to face the reality that their garden space is not suitable for the things they would like to grow. Right plant, right place is not 'made-up stuff', it suggests a sensible course of action.
My cool and shady borders are often the most reliably beautiful parts of my garden because sunshine and warmth here is not reliable, and lovely sunshine, when I do get it, may be accompanied by dryness, from lack of rain or searing winds or both, so the flowers don't always do as well as hoped in the sunny beds, even though the plants are chosen to survive.
@jessicalouisewillis Where we have slabs removed from our patio, to create planting pockets, these flood during heavy rain, as the water runs of the patio into them. Be mindful that this might happen to your grass area, and it may not like it.
To answer your latest questions:
1) Use the sleepers if you have them. Try your best to anchor them to the ground, if they are to retain soil. Line them with non-permeable plastic, to keep the soil from coming into contact with them. Avoid letting any plants grow over the top of the sleepers, keep them exposed to air and light, otherwise they can rot quickly.
2) I do love Sausage dogs! Go for it if you really want a grass area on the patio. Just have a plan B if it doesn't work. Don't throw away the slabs until you know it works. Good lawns need good drainage.
3) You can start planting most things any time from now. Ideally you do this when the soil is still warm, and before the first frosts. Keep things well watered, as it can be warm and dry during the Autumn.
4) Understand you safety concerns. You could put a minimal rope/barrier, or using a short hedge if there is enough space. We have sharp drops of 1.5 metres from each terrace, but have never found this to be a problem (but then we never have children visiting our garden, but do have lots of elderly friends). The photo below shows one our Arbour's. It's about 1.5 metres from the edge of the terrace, and there is only a 0.5 metre gap between the greenhouse and terrace edge, to get to the Arbour. We have never found access to be a problem.
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If a garden is predominantly north facing, and surrounded by trees, or buildings, there isn't much point picking plants that like full sun.
I'll leave you to it then . I clearly know nothing.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
which means the real value of something can be judged only from practical experience or results and not from appearance or theory.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
The second made up thing is just as false as the first lie she got caught with.
It is abundantly clear from the pictures that there is space well clear of the building that get amazing sun. My trees are right in my garden, not on far away like that. It is a heaven for flowering sun loving trees and plants. Once established, the plants send shoots upwards first to catch the best sun.
So, as I said in my original post and have done many times, pick the best sun catching points in the garden for the best flowering plants and trees.
By the way - I wasn't talking about the OP's garden as such. I was merely illustrating a point by saying that if a garden was all in shade, you wouldn't plant sun lovers. That you look at the site and conditions and then work out the most suitable plants. The same would apply for a south facing, completely open site. You choose what suits the conditions.
You seem to be deliberately trying to cause twist what people say. I really don't understand why.
I'm not responding further. It's like banging my head off a wall.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Hence, one can pick the best flowers and trees one likes as seed to make it a heaven on a budget.
The sighing, huffing & puffing, and mockery are all false forms of argument.
To answer your latest questions:
1) Use the sleepers if you have them. Try your best to anchor them to the ground, if they are to retain soil. Line them with non-permeable plastic, to keep the soil from coming into contact with them. Avoid letting any plants grow over the top of the sleepers, keep them exposed to air and light, otherwise they can rot quickly.
2) I do love Sausage dogs! Go for it if you really want a grass area on the patio. Just have a plan B if it doesn't work. Don't throw away the slabs until you know it works. Good lawns need good drainage.
3) You can start planting most things any time from now. Ideally you do this when the soil is still warm, and before the first frosts. Keep things well watered, as it can be warm and dry during the Autumn.
4) Understand you safety concerns. You could put a minimal rope/barrier, or using a short hedge if there is enough space. We have sharp drops of 1.5 metres from each terrace, but have never found this to be a problem (but then we never have children visiting our garden, but do have lots of elderly friends). The photo below shows one our Arbour's. It's about 1.5 metres from the edge of the terrace, and there is only a 0.5 metre gap between the greenhouse and terrace edge, to get to the Arbour. We have never found access to be a problem.