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Deep secret. Deeply unhappy

B3B3 Posts: 27,505
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It wasn't  doing well in partial shade so I  moved it to fullish  sun. facing east.
The container seems big enough. It gets rose fertiliser and plenty of water and I  topped it with a little of the mislabelled horse  manure I  got earlier in the year .
It's  in a bad way.
Can anyone offer any advice?
PS the big leaves look healthier  in the photo than reality 
In London. Keen but lazy.
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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    I’m not a rose expert like some, but I have grown several over the years ... and my instinct is to prepare a lovely planting spot in the soil by working some well rotted manure in to the top 18” and then
    plant it nice and deep, water it well and stand well back. 
    Some roses are
    happy in some containers
    ... I don’t think that one is ... no idea why but as you say, it looks unhappy. 

    Others may think differently, but that’s what I would do. 😊 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • robairdmacraignilrobairdmacraignil Posts: 782
    The leaves look big compared to roses in my own garden in more open positions and maybe it has adapted to some extent to the shadier conditions it was in previously by producing these bigger leaves that now are getting scorched in full sun. It might adapt to the new position itself over time but to me the pot also looks to be just about big enough to accommodate it and as already mentioned planting in open soil may give it a better chance to thrive.
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  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Deep Secret should be ok for pots. Lots of sun should help. Read the packet carefully re fertiliser. Too much is not helpful.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    I have several container roses doing well.  I'm pretty sure I haven't overanythinged I  suspect it wants to be in the ground.
    The problem is the best rose spots are already taken so here are the options:
    Squeeze in in front of rose climbers in optimum spots
    Hot bed really hot all day in summer
    West facing sun in afternoon
    Dappled shade but blasting hot midday in summer
    Shade most of the day but a little sun midsummer
    @Marlorena. Sorry to bother you but can you advise?
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    Doh,I clicked on here expected to read your big secret haha.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    I have no secrets. My life is a remaindered book @Nanny Beach. 
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • Nanny BeachNanny Beach Posts: 8,719
    EVERYONE had secrets,can't tell you mine,I'd have to kill you,!!
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    I'm so boring, there's nothing to hide
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    @B3
    ..bit of a state... you didn't prune it hard enough in Spring.. roses like these should be pruned hard right down to 4 inches, all canes...  the one on the right is going unproductive, turning yellowy/green.. I see just one bud..
    I would prune that hard now, as it's not going to do anything until you do, it's sort of telling you in a way..
    I have put 4 red lines here, where I would cut.. it will seem drastic and it's up to you if you want to do this, you don't have to, but the rose needs rejuvenating and that's achieved by hard pruning..  don't be scared.. lol..
    ..the short bottom red line is for that leafless shoot on the right.. I think there may be another on the left that is doing nothing, a short dead looking piece, if so take that off too..

    ..after which, you liquid feed.. I use Miracle Gro or Tomorite at recommended dosages.. this is very important, it will kick start your rose..  the pot looks rather dry to me..



    best of luck..
    East Anglia, England
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    edited June 2021
    Thank you so much @malorena. I will do What you advise. The pot isn't dry it's the mislabelled compost I decided to use as mulch and should have composted!
    The  Margaret Merrill stuck in the patio that you helped me with earlier in the year is full of buds about to burst. Thank you for that too.
    PS
    Job done will feed it tomorrow
    In London. Keen but lazy.
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