Never for fabric conditioner, rarely for hair. Try to keep all chemical usage to a minimum, don't want to upset the bacterial balance in the septic tank or affect the water quality in the stream it feeds into, which runs through our garden and field.
When we were using - and washing - cloth nappies, the advice was to use half the 'usual' amount of washing detergent and no conditioner, so they stayed absorbent and to reduce residue build-up against the skin. It seemed odd to think that nappies of all things could get clean with that amount, but normal clothes couldn't, so have tended to stick with that amount for all washing since. I occasionally use a bit of fabric conditioner, but only half and only for bedding and stuff that tends to feel a bit softer with it. Never towels or anything that needs to be absorbent.
'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.'
@Hostafan1 we use SC for lots of cleaning, vinegar too for almost all cleaning stuff around the house ... but I was told by the repair man that the washing machine manufacturers won't stand by the guarantee if we used it in the machine rather than Calgon ... so we use Calgon.
I'm puzzled by accusations of hostility to others by those of us who have made choices to try not to use stuff that harms the planet, and explained why we've made those choices ... whatever next .... are we going to be judged for going on beach litter picks or using our own mugs rather than the disposable ones at Costa or wherever?
I've said that I don't understand people who would choose to use something that pollutes the watercourses just because they like the smell ... everything we put into the drains costs us money when we pay for our water and drainage ... stuff that's a necessity we can't manage without, but if it's not necessary I try not to do it .... where's the hostility in that? If I want my clothes to smell of something I put a lavender bag in my chest of drawers.
Other people make other choices ... me explaining my reasoning doesn't mean I'm hostile to people who make a different choice ... I just genuinely don't understand why anyone would make that choice. Why is disagreement always seen as hostility these days? No wonder no one ever dare put their head above the parapet ... whatever happened to 'agreeing to differ'?
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Water from baths, washing machines, dishwashers, the bog etc goes into the sewage system and eventually, a treatment works. It only gets released into water courses when deemed safe.
A few years ago we visited Blists Hill Victorian town in Ironbridge, a kind of open air museum. I bought a block of carbolic soap - I genuinely like the smell - after about a week of using this stuff my skin was red raw. Ill stick to coal tar. I like the smell of that too.
Water from baths, washing machines, dishwashers, the bog etc goes into the sewage system and eventually, a treatment works. It only gets released into water courses when deemed safe.
and treatment works cost us money ... we pay for them when we pay for our water and drainage ... the more stuff they have to do there, the bigger the treatment works have to be and the more it costs us ... even without the damage to the environment. If people don't care about the oceans they might care about their bank balances.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
I used the word hostile but thought I was clear in saying hostile to the use of softeners and not hostile to the users of them. There’s a marked distinction.
Water from baths, washing machines, dishwashers, the bog etc goes into the sewage system and eventually, a treatment works. It only gets released into water courses when deemed safe.
Sadly I was aware of this.. I probably should have added a caveat. This is what happens when you privatise a public service..the shareholders dividend becomes the main focus. But more than anything is another example of the totally ineffective, bureaucratic waste of money that is The Environment Agency.
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I'm puzzled by accusations of hostility to others by those of us who have made choices to try not to use stuff that harms the planet, and explained why we've made those choices ... whatever next .... are we going to be judged for going on beach litter picks or using our own mugs rather than the disposable ones at Costa or wherever?
I've said that I don't understand people who would choose to use something that pollutes the watercourses just because they like the smell ... everything we put into the drains costs us money when we pay for our water and drainage ... stuff that's a necessity we can't manage without, but if it's not necessary I try not to do it .... where's the hostility in that? If I want my clothes to smell of something I put a lavender bag in my chest of drawers.
Other people make other choices ... me explaining my reasoning doesn't mean I'm hostile to people who make a different choice ... I just genuinely don't understand why anyone would make that choice. Why is disagreement always seen as hostility these days? No wonder no one ever dare put their head above the parapet ... whatever happened to 'agreeing to differ'?
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Some folk just seem thrive on confrontation.
and treatment works cost us money ... we pay for them when we pay for our water and drainage ... the more stuff they have to do there, the bigger the treatment works have to be and the more it costs us ... even without the damage to the environment. If people don't care about the oceans they might care about their bank balances.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
This is what happens when you privatise a public service..the shareholders dividend becomes the main focus.
But more than anything is another example of the totally ineffective, bureaucratic waste of money that is The Environment Agency.
Sorry for the OT.