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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Ah thank you @Silver surfer ... the drawing I have doesn’t really show the leaf attachment. So no, not Dipsacus pilosus then. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • An update : although no flowers produced yet, it is taking a distinct shape now with many side shoots. I’m still none the wiser but as I mentioned at the start of the thread, it definitely isn’t Teasel.

    Any thoughts would be much appreciated!


  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,385
    Chicory (Cichorium intybus)?
    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • Ah, that seems very likely as it was part of the mix I sowed. Some plants are almost 2m high!

    Never seen chicory before so nice to have it doing well in the garden. 
  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,385
    Ah, that seems very likely as it was part of the mix I sowed. Some plants are almost 2m high!

    Never seen chicory before so nice to have it doing well in the garden. 
    If it is, you'll soon be in for a treat! :)
    This is one from July 13th 2019:
    I have 4 or 5 about to bloom this year.
    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • Wow, that's lovely! Hopefully mine will look the same and keep coming back each year!
  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,385
    Be sure to post some photos once they start.  They are biennials, so if you collect and sow the seeds as soon as they are ripe, they will sometimes grow enough during the remainder of the year that they'll bloom the following year.  Once you have them self-seeding, just remember to not weed-out any little yellowy-green 'lettuces' you may see appearing in the area.  They are also easy to move at that stage. :)
    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • They are in a wildflower/meadow part of the garden so sowing this year might not be easy as the area is so lush! I cut the area at the end of winter. 

    Should I gather some seeds and try to sow in the meadow or sow in pots? Or, is it likely to self-seed naturally when I cut the whole area down in Feb?

    I always thought they were a perennial? 

  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,385
    The RHS says annual or perennial, so I guess they are technically 'short lived perennials', but they don't flower in the same year if sown in spring and I have never had one survive after flowering, so they grow as biennials here.  I start mine in seed trays as soon as the seed is ripe, overwinter in a cold frame and plant out in spring. :)
    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • Mary370Mary370 Posts: 2,003
    Oh wow......what a beautiful blue flower.  Must look for seeds........
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