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Plant ID. Seed grown but lost the label.

AlchemistAlchemist Posts: 273
edited May 2021 in Plants
Dear Team, could someone please ID this plant from me. These were seed raised and planted last year but no clue as to what it is. These were puny last year but now seems to be bent on world domination and smothering everything around. FYI these remained evergreen throughout. Pics below. Any help will be deeply appreciated. 
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  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,385
    Possibly Hesperis?
    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • AlchemistAlchemist Posts: 273
    Many thanks @BobTheGardener Could very well be!! I did sow some but was not expecting it to become such a monster. Also the pics on the web show them to have longish flower stalks so was not sure. Do you know if they take kindly to moving?
  • BobTheGardenerBobTheGardener Posts: 11,385
    I've some growing - I'll go take a look/photo, but the flower spikes do normally grow quite tall (2-3ft), so it may not be that (I can't tell the height from the photos.)
    A trowel in the hand is worth a thousand lost under a bush.
  • LG_LG_ Posts: 4,360
    edited May 2021
    My Hesperis created their buds quite low (under a foot) then suddenly shot up to about 3' and bloomed. They are gorgeous, but much beefier plants than I'd expected, with lots of side shoots!


    'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.'
    - Cicero
  • AlchemistAlchemist Posts: 273
    Many thanks @BobTheGardener  they are about knee high. I meant the web pics appear to show the flowers to be 15-30 cm from the basal leaf. In this case the buds are set quite close. May be they extend? I’ve not grown this before so not aware of it’s habit. 
  • LG_LG_ Posts: 4,360
    This shows the height better. They're more like 4' now, but the buds looked ready to burst at about a foot or so.


    'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.'
    - Cicero
  • AlchemistAlchemist Posts: 273
    Thanks @LG_ and @BobTheGardener. I’m fairly convinced now this is Hesperis. Last question; curently they are in front of the border can these be moved now or better left alone. Cheers. 
  • AlchemistAlchemist Posts: 273
    @LG_ failed to mention your Hesperis looks gorgeous and only going to look better with the roses in bloom! Love the combination and will do the same next year!
  • LiriodendronLiriodendron Posts: 8,328
    If the soil is moist and you can dig up a good rootball, so it doesn't notice, you might get away with moving it now - but I think they develop a tap root, so it could be a problem.  Better to leave them if you can, and put up with them being taller than you wanted.  (Mine have grown to over 5ft, which is not at all what I'd planned...)

    The scent in the evening is fab.   :)
    Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
  • LG_LG_ Posts: 4,360
    edited May 2021
    Ah that's interesting @Liriodendron - it's the first time I've grown them and I knew they were supposed to smell good but had neglected to notice the evening part (they don't smell at all right now). I'll have a sniff later, though I think it might be a bit chilly for much scent.

    I'm particularly delighted that they are all white. They were grown from RHS seed scheme seeds and I had expected a range of hues but hoped for white.

    Thanks @Alchemist - there's a white peony in bud in the foreground, lots of foxgloves coming up and bonkers Summer Drummer alliums in there too. We'll see how that combination works 😉 😁
    'If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need.'
    - Cicero
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