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Mother and Baby Robins Dead

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  • CrazybeeladyCrazybeelady Posts: 778
    Possibly a reference to a third nuclear power station being built next door ........ 
    Oh  :( yes that makes more sense!
    HS2 is very apparent where I live, lots of countryside and trees already gone. But it's ok apparently because they replace the trees they fell - with saplings, half of which get blown over and the rest vandalised. Maybe a couple will live the necessary 200 years to replace them.
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    With an adult and chicks being dead on the nest I would guess something caused the death of the adult and the chicks therefore starved.  The wet, cold weather will have made it hard for the adult to find enough food for itself and the chicks.  As wild edges said, mortality rates are high at the best of times.
  • listy528listy528 Posts: 13
    I just want to say a huge thank you to everyone posting messages, so many of you have suffered heartbreak like mine, my thoughts are with all of you, thank you for helping me understand why this tragedy may have happened, it has helped a bit, I still feel responsible for not helping them or something which I know sounds ridiculous! I also said I'm ripping the ivy down!! But, I'd like to think another pair will nest next year more successfully, won't help me forget finding my poor little robin family though 😭😭😭 
    Thank you so much again to all you lovely people 😊
  • Red mapleRed maple Posts: 1,138
    Very sad about the robin family, but it would be a tragedy to rip down the ivy - it’s a source of food and refuge for many species, and with so much destruction of habitats already, it would surely be wrong to remove this one?
  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 12,585
    I would wait and see what Springwatch say (assuming you contact them), before getting rid of the ivy. As @red maple says, ivy is very good for wildlife. I appreciate how upsetting it must have been but please don't act in haste.
    The RSPB might also be able to give you some advice  :)
    https://www.rspb.org.uk/

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited May 2021
    i think removing the ivy would be a mistake. There are many reasons why a nest fails ... for all we know the parent could  have had a congenital problem and ‘just died’ after the stresses of laying and brooding eggs. These things happen. 

    Another year the existence  of that ivy could be the difference between life and death for another bird. 

    Sad things happen  ... but life will go on in your garden if the habitat is there. 😊 



    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    edited May 2021
    I agree that ivy is really valuable as a habitat and in its flowers. 

    We don't get to control nature - we can just do our best to provide habitat and help and leave nature to its own devices. What we domesticate we do get to control, but not the rest of it. Hard as it sounds, death is not a 'failure', in people or plants or animals, it's part of the round - the out-breath that goes with the in-breath, you can't have one without the other. If you bury the birds or leave them in a bush, perhaps, something will take life - microbes, clean up bugs, worms, to help them reproduce in turn.

    For most of its existence humanity had a mortality rate of 1:2 or more. It's changed in the UK in the last 140  years or so, but we tend to forget that for those human animals and all other lifeforms loss is the norm. For 2000 common frog eggs laid, around five frogs will survive to adulthood. It's thought that only one in ten thousand sea turtles make it to adulthood. Blue tits do better at around one in three babies making it to adulthood.

    With robins, 40% of baby birds are lost before fledging. But adults have multiple broods, two, three or even four per year. So hopefully your surviving adult will go on to have other clutches. And if not this year, then next. Now it's warmer, there is insect food around and settling weather, they might get an easier go of it. 

    @listy528, you didn't do anything wrong.
  • listy528listy528 Posts: 13
    Having sat in the garden today, looking where the robins nested, I do agree with you all, thank you, I think my thoughts were irrational, I will keep it of course and hopefully, I will have a healthy load of babies next year, I've grown the ivy for so many years, I know I wouldn't be able to get rid of it really, just my emotions  talking! I really haven't take the discovery well at all 😭😭😭
  • listy528listy528 Posts: 13
    Fire, Thank you so much for your kind words
    It's all so difficult to accept 😭😭
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096

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