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  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    We watched two drama series this week, one on bbc one on itv, noted they were both written by men. What a refreshing change to have male and females working together on the cases, no cattiness, no bitterness or trying to degrade men like you get with women writers. They seem to think it makes good viewing if they can portray the men as stupid. We've decided not to watch anything written by women for a while.
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Is nobody else bothered by events in the Hillsborough case against those 3?
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    I had hoped for better given all the other recent verdicts on that event.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    Hey @Hostafan1 have you ever tried this? https://www.treehugger.com/hosta-shoots-are-edible-4868344  The article doesn't seem to mention flavour which is perhaps very telling :#
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
  • seacrowsseacrows Posts: 234
    Oh yeah. That made my eyes pop out. The police are not legally required to tell the truth in a court of enquiry because it has no prosecutorial power.
    What? 
  • NorthernJoeNorthernJoe Posts: 660
    Hillsborough? The battle is as close to being won with the last inquest verdict. It was never going to get better than that.

    The other matter is,  just how much longer do you think there is left for the protagonists! They must be knocking on a bit and there's always the public interest aspect. Will a successful prosecution mean we know they're lying scumbags any more clearly than the legal defence of we falsified evidence to the inquiry but it has no legal position so its not an illegal act?

    Seriously,  they've owned up to being lying scumbags in a court to avoid the risk of prosecution and conviction! They've all retired,  there's no sanction other than for as long as people remember Hillsborough they'll remember the police falsified evidence perhaps wikipedia will give people the names and former titles of those three men as carrying out this doctoring of evidence.
  • NorthernJoeNorthernJoe Posts: 660
    Of course watching the news last night I was fuming. Those scumbags got off on a "we did it but you can't do anything about it,  nahnahnananah!" defence. Add in the fact another scumbags has come out of irrelevance to put the boot in to his former boss for vain reasons such as revenge. Whether they messed up or not (highly likely they did seeing as our per 100,000 rates are even higher than italy) I think he's a cnut of the highest order. Nothing he has said isn't something that's already out there to find out if journos did their job properly. But no it takes a revenge jockey to spell things out to them. Lazy journalism in the UK. 

    Jeez! I'm on a roll with my curmudgeonly opinions today. Hillsborough prosecution collapse,  Hillsborough police /solicitor scumbags, ex SPAD scumbags and lazy journalism. I think I need a lie down to recover! Back later! 
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    edited May 2021
    Hostafan1 said:
    steveTu said:
    Hasn't the argument been that the alleged perpetrators are named to encourage other victims to come forward? Seems a bit wrong as it (the argument) assumes that the person is guilty.

    and that the accuser is honest?

    Once someone is found guilty, sure, name them and other victims can come forward. 
    I think half the male cast of Coronation St have been suspended at some time yet none of them have been convicted 

    I'm not arguing the case, just saying why. There is an issue though here eh? If you stop reporting before a guilty verdict, then what about all those reports in the press that lead to investigation and conviction? Isn't investigative journalism in one way good?
    How you draw a line between the good and bad that journalism does, I don't know. You could say Cummings recent rants are character assassination as no committee yet has published their findings on the Gov's (and Boris') performance - but should they not be reported? If  they should be reported where again is the line? I heard on Radio 4 an article about Bashir and his involvement with reporting on a child murder case in Brighton - he hasn't been found 'guilty' of anything in that specific regard, but should it be reported? If you have a free press it seems that you have to put up with the good and the bad.
    UK - South Coast Retirement Campus (East)
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    pansyface said:
     but Ellen Degeneris' shows continue to be broadcast?  

    and finally has had her show chopped in  the USA

    I’ve never heard of her or her show, but which is it? Chopped, or still on air?

    It's both.  Still being broadcast here in the UK, chopped in the USA.
  • wild edgeswild edges Posts: 10,497
    We're fine with bullying in the UK though. Just ask Priti Patel. No need to face consequences when you can use tax payer money to pay the settlements. 
    If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
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