So for this type of rose, would I be training it to climb then? I suppose if new thick stems need to be cut back then training would be a continuous task?
So for this type of rose, would I be training it to climb then? I suppose if new thick stems need to be cut back then training would be a continuous task?
Yes, once you have enough new material to start training onto horizontal wires, you need to keep tying them in as they grow, but once the main framework is established, it would just be a case of shortening the laterals (bloom-producing side shoots) and pruning out the dead or diseased bits as part of usual annual rose pruning. I would probably leave about a foot of those thick canes, as you will hopefully get new growth/training material from those. With the canes being rather stiff, it could be a climbing HT, but post photos when it’s in bloom and it may be possible to ID what it is and advise better before you wield the secateurs!
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Ah here is a picture of last year's flowers. I posted it in another thread but seems there's a lot of roses with very similar flowers. There is only one here but they tend to be clustered.
Ah OK, maybe not a climbing HT, but no idea tbh, did anyone have any thoughts at all re type of rose, if not specific variety? Also does it repeat flower or just have one big show?
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Ah OK, maybe not a climbing HT, but no idea tbh, did anyone have any thoughts at all re type of rose, if not specific variety? Also does it repeat flower or just have one big show?
Summer flowering only (the one big show), single flowers... more likely a rambler of some sort, something like American Pillar, but not sure that’s right at all. I’ve no experience with those, so perhaps best to wait until it’s in full flower and try again for an ID with photos of blooms, buds, foliage, thorns etc. Sorry!
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Yes, American Pillar.. indicated by the bunch of bright yellow stamens, the white blotch at the base, single pink flowers in clusters and the glossy foliage... not to mention the very coarse, thick caned and thorny habit, which is difficult to control.. a rose superseded long ago and personally not one I'd want in my garden, but if you are happy to keep it, and it's now a bit too far from the fence, after it's finished the flush of blooms, end of July time... you could cut out all those thick canes there down to 1 foot above the ground... but you must keep any new shoots sent up from the base this year to train towards the fence, fan shaped if possible, as they will provide your flowers for next year..
Alternatively, if you think it's all a bit too much to cope with, consider having it removed, and planting something you can manage, from scratch... just a suggestion... lots of better roses out there these days..
Many thanks for confirming ID @Marlorena, didn’t have the courage of my convictions there, not being too familiar with ramblers, although we will be getting acquainted in the autumn! Also the advice being different for ramblers re pruning time.
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Well it has finally fallen down on its own weight after all the new growth this year. One section about 4ft high survived and there are lots of new shoots coming out. The plan is to train it on the fence and trellis. Should I just tie it to wire supports and the trellis? How often should I prune it? Doesn't sound right to have those super thick canes on a trellis and I guess new shoots will eventually thicken up like that?
This is my inherited climber after 3 years of a very hard prune. I took the whole lot back to about 1m and trained the new growth. It's done really well and continues to produce lower down growth which I was hoping for. I now just prune to tidy up each year.
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Alternatively, if you think it's all a bit too much to cope with, consider having it removed, and planting something you can manage, from scratch... just a suggestion... lots of better roses out there these days..
The plan is to train it on the fence and trellis. Should I just tie it to wire supports and the trellis? How often should I prune it? Doesn't sound right to have those super thick canes on a trellis and I guess new shoots will eventually thicken up like that?