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Help with two plant IDs please

FireFire Posts: 19,096
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Any ideas?
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I the first one with star shaped leaves might be a alpine.

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 I thought this might be a salvia but it seems huge.


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  • Mr. Vine EyeMr. Vine Eye Posts: 2,394
    Is the second one a ‘monks hood’ / aconite of some kind?
    East Yorkshire
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Morning @Fire 😊 
    some salvias have quite large blooms ... that looks like one to me ... don’t know which tho ... I grow the smaller flowered shrubby types. 
    As for the ‘alpine’ ... the leaves look a bit like my Snow in Summer Cerastium tormentosum ... a mass of starry white flowers in the summer ... but there are other plants with similar leaves ... hopefully an alpine specialist will see this.  If not I’ll go out later and look at mine ... I’ve just been out there in my dressing gown while I waited for the kettle to boil and cut back a group 3 clematis I realised I’d forgotten to do. There was a wren chattering in the undergrowth and there was a lovely pinky sky in the east. It was a bit brrr tho’. 
    😊 ☕️ 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    I do love wrens.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    So do I ... I think this one may be setting up house in the clematis by our sitting room window ... I’m very excited ... when we came here I planned the planting in that corner to attract wrens ... looks as if it’s worked 😊 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • AdRockAdRock Posts: 241
    The blue one is Salvia patens ‘Guanajuato’

    I have one in my garden and it’s lovely deep blue which matches the pots you can get 
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Definitely Salvia, you can’t mistake an Aconitum leaves, I like the foliage much as the flowers. First to poke up in the 
    I don’t know the alpine one,  it’s stalks are too thick for Snow in Summer, unless there are different types. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    edited March 2021
    I don't think it's SiS either.
    It has the look of a sedum. maybe lineare
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    Could it be a type of Artemisia. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Thank you @AdRock - I read that gentian sage is very tender and to treat like dahlias. How have you found it to be in your garden? I don't have any space to take it into protection in winter.


  • AsarumAsarum Posts: 661
    edited March 2021
    First one - possibly Antennaria dioica?
    I agree with Salvia.
    East Anglia
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