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Slopping garden, no privacy, over looked

Hi! All advice welcome!

Have a new build, corner plot house with a slope coming away from the house at the bottom and right hand side of our garden. We are completely overlooked by neighbouring houses in the street. The slope at the bottom and right hand side both dip down approx 60-70cm. 

We are looking to level the garden and want the cheapest way possible to do this. My idea is to have a retaining wall made out of sleepers put in to cover the full back and right hand side of the garden and use the soil already in the garden to level out and fill in. We will then plant large conifers to screen for privacy. And then patio/slab at the bottom as that’s where we get most sun. 

Would this be the cheapest way of levelling and creating privacy? 

Thanks in advance! 
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  • BenCottoBenCotto Posts: 4,718
    How completely are you “completely overlooked”? Can people walking along the pavement see over the fence? Do people in neighbouring houses see in from their ground floor rooms or only from the upstairs rooms? And even if it is possible to see in, do they actually do so? 

    I have to say I do not like the idea of sleepers, levelling and conifers at all. The conifers - which will take a few years to reach a height that will afford privacy - will suck moisture and nutrients out of the ground so not much will grow and it will be oppressively gloomy in your garden and house as well. Further, those conifers will continue to grow and grow, or face an annual £500 bill to keep them trimmed.

    Levelling seems like a lot of effort and a measure of expensive for little tangible reward.

    My solution is much simpler and much cheaper. Put trellising around the top of your fence and grow some climbers such as roses and clematises along it. This won’t afford much privacy from upstairs windows but, realistically, how often would people be upstairs looking at you in the garden? Unless they’re slightly warped, almost never I would think.
    Rutland, England
  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 12,585
    I was wondering about levelling off to create 2 levels, with a step down, however in terms of budget tha may prove tricky. 
    Could you show a photo or two from the ground level showing the level of "overlookedness" and the slope ? That might help me visualise it  :)
  • MSKMSK Posts: 11
    Thanks for your reply BenCotto! 

    Sorry I know it’s not clear from the photo. On the right hand side at our fence there is a path nearest us (this will be fine once we double the fence) although on the other side of the road there is a path and people walking along can see us in the garden quite clearly unfortunately, always saying hi when walking past or just staring at us. 

    I have been told that trellises are not allowed as would take the fence above 2M. I did contact planning to see if trellises on a structure separate from the fence was allowed or pleeched trees and I was advised no. They basically said I was only allowed to plant trees to create privacy. 
  • MSKMSK Posts: 11
    Thanks Anni D!

    I’ve taken more photos to try to capture the gradient and to show how overlooked we are. 

    In terms of split level I’m not opposed to it although I do think this will be expensive as you say. It’s the right side slope that is stopping me going for split level as feel we will still be overlooked at this part.
  • MSKMSK Posts: 11
    If you look to the right of the overlooked photo you will be able to see the decking banister height in comparison to the fence height
  • AnniDAnniD Posts: 12,585
    Thanks for that, l can certainly picture your problem now.
    I can see the temptation to go for conifers in that situation, but bear in mind that they can appear to suck the light out of a garden. It may be better to think of planting deciduous trees that would give you privacy during the Summer when you're out in the garden, and then allow more light in the gloomy days of Winter. They would also be better in terms of attracting wildlife.
    If you did decide to go for conifers can l please beg you not to go for Leylandii. Instead choose something such as thuja. I know you want a quick solution and l can understand why, but although thuja are slower growing, they are much less thuggish. It doesn't take long for leylandii to get out of control even with the best will in the world. 
    As regards the slope, that's more tricky for me to advise as it's not something l have had to deal with, but there are members on here who have.
    I wish you luck with it, and tempting though it is to get on with it, please take your time  :)
  • MSKMSK Posts: 11
    Thanks very much AnniD! 

    I will definitely take your advice on board and not rush as whatever we do will cost money and I don’t want to make the wrong decision. Thanks again 😊
  • KeenOnGreenKeenOnGreen Posts: 1,831
    I have some serious retaining walls in my garden, both brick and railway sleeper, and they can pose all sorts of challenges.  Initial cost/work/mess to install, transporting heavy pots/bags, etc up and down between the different levels when you are gardening, drainage issues, and worst of all they invariably end up moving and have to be repaired and replaced.

    If I were you, I would leave the slope, and focus on the right structures and planting to create privacy.  I can't tell which way your garden faces, but I would be tempted to put a pergola in the far corner, with some climbers growing over the top of it.  Surely planning would allow that?  If they are right up against a boundary fence, then they can be 2.5 metres in height.  That way when you are sitting under it, you will be hidden, and facing back towards the house, and not the street.

    I would put any entertaining areas (patio, BBQ, other seating) up close to the fence by the pavement, so that again you are hidden and looking back at the house.  The fence looks quite transparent, so I'd either plant some climbers beside it, or add some panels to make it completely private. 

    I would focus most of the planting closer to the house, and in a border along the fence between you and your neighbour, so that you are not just looking back a brick house.  This wouldn't solve the problem of you seeing your neighbours when you are looking from the house outwards, but there may be another solution for that, with some tall planting in pots/troughs close to the house. 

  • Lizzie27Lizzie27 Posts: 12,494
    I'm surprised that the previous owners were allowed to erect fencing in the front garden, especially as the neighbours don't seem to have any. Normally it's not allowed on housing estates. Do you not have a back garden at all?
    Trying to level off that slope would be a major undertaking involving professionals and skips, also you may well find there are drains in the way. Do not under estimate the amount of soil that would need to be moved. In a word, don't do it! Some small deciduous trees in strategic places as already suggested would be your best bet and far, far cheaper.
    North East Somerset - Clay soil over limestone
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