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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    But last year they were promised 2% and this year their 1% won't cover inflation and given the way they've run themselves ragged for a year it just seems petty, small minded and short sighted and not designed to recognise, reward and retain skilled staff.

    And that's without comparing the cost of that extra 1% to the millions of pounds lost on all those stupid schemes to source unusable PPE abroad instead of using UK companies and their employees - thus saving jobs and money - and all the millions wasted on track and trace that didn't actually work.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • LynLyn Posts: 23,190
    punkdoc said:
    When so many have lost their jobs and no other public workers will get any increase, I think it is reasonable. Starter nurses did get 12% over 3 or 4 years quite recently.
    I have to agree,  when a soldier gets sent to a war torn country he gets his wages,  I don’t think he gets any extra because he’s putting his life on the line. 
    The nurses have been paid overtime as they worked extra,  but so many have no jobs at all now. 
    I think this could be a case of heart ruling head. 
    Gardening on the wild, windy west side of Dartmoor. 

  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    Does anybody know whether the money in the side of the bus will be enough to cover the money squandered recently  on failed state of the art world beating give a chum a piece of the pie in the sky schemes ?
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    B3 said:
    Does anybody know whether the money in the side of the bus will be enough to cover the money squandered recently  on failed state of the art world beating give a chum a piece of the pie in the sky schemes ?
    Make that £37,000,000,000 wasted on said ( still not working ) track and trace system.
    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/test-and-trace-spending-ps37bn-budget-small-print_uk_60412920c5b601179ec35d4a?fbclid=IwAR3TnvAN8OhXK5UzkeXZoW_QBle0AlFYZix2VtY_f4gIiWo61F0jseUJE9I
    Devon.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    My sub-basic maths skills tell me it might not be quite enough🤔
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    If nurses pay is so good, why do we keep hearing about 10s of thousands of job  vacancies?
    Devon.
  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    I do think that nurses deserve more but the problem is that however much was offered there would be screams that it isn't enough.
  • debs64debs64 Posts: 5,184
    I believe one argument is that If pay isn’t good enough to tempt permanent staff agency nurses are used which is a lot more expensive. 
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    As I understand it there was a huge shortage of nursing staff before the pandemic so there is something about their pay and conditions which is not enticing new people to train in sufficient numbers nor trained and experienced staff to stay, even without the added pressures and stress of working thru a pandemic in poor conditions with inadequate PPE, insufficient beds/ventilators/staff.

    It's a simple conclusion to draw then that those nurses who have stayed or come back to handle the pandemic and all the stress and danger need a) a reward and b) an enticement to stay and those thinking about nursing as a career need to know it will pay for a roof over their heads plus food, clothes, heating and all the little essentials of life.   
    Carrots work better than sticks.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    In the past, we paid nurses to train and gave them somewhere to live. Now we charge them and still expect them to work whilst paying for the privilege.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
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