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Amistad query

I have just received these three lovely Amistad from Suttons, they are for a new garden border which is not ready to plant up yet. Should I overwinter in a unheated greenhouse and will I need to cut them down to do that. We are in Scotland and I am concerned that they might not survive a cold winter, we have had frost already.
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  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    I would keep them in the g/h, but don't cut them back until next Spring.
    Amistad are not 100% hardy.
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  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,618
    I would take as many cuttings as you can as well.
  • And watch them when you plant out in spring as slugs love them.
  • JillusJillus Posts: 10
    Many thanks folks, new to all this so will need lots of help. Is it ok to do cutting now? 


  • batwood14batwood14 Posts: 193
    you can divide plants at this time of the year but cuttings won't really take - they should be done in spring.
  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,618
    Cuttings of Amistad will root now with a little bottom heat.  Use new unflowered shoots.
  • FairygirlFairygirl Posts: 55,117
    I'd go for it @Jillus. It's a bit late, but nothing to lose  :)
    They're not hardy here at all - most salvias really aren't, so always better to have back up, but just stick them in the greenhouse as @punkdoc says. You'll be guaranteed plants for spring that way :)
    I'd be careful about acclimatising too, when it comes to that point. Don't rush  ;)
    You can also do cuttings in spring, but the plants might be a bit young for that. You can play it by ear and see how they develop though. 

    You can't really divide Salvias very easily @batwood14, especially when they're woodier. A younger plant grown in soft conditions might be ok, but it's the reason cuttings are the usual method of propagating.   :)
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  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    edited October 2020
    I would agree that now is a good time to take cuttings, as long as you can supply bottom heat.
    Salvia amistad cannot be divided reliably.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    If the greenhouse is unheated I would suggest plunging their pots into boxes of straw or wrapping the pots in bubble wrap to protect them from freezing.  If you can see roots peeping out of the bottom then pot them up into a slightly larger pot first.   

    Take cuttings as back up.   Even if spring is the best time you have nothing to lose by trying now.   I took some a month ago and they rooted in water so some bottom heat from a propagator would be very likely to work now.
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  • My two-weeks old salvia cuttings have taken in a little vase of water in the kitchen, so not too late and quite easy. The hardest part is probably overwintering them. A windowsill for these ones probably. 🤔 


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