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Does fern live on trees and on stones?

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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    I suspect he's my evil twin but he denies it @micearguers😉
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • Paul B3Paul B3 Posts: 3,154
    Hello all!!!
    Yes , my ferns have done well this year ; thankyou for asking .
    I don't actually collect ferns as such , I just incorporate them into the garden amidst other plants .
    One of my favourites has got to be Asplenium trichomanes ; looks delicate but is very hardy ; mine grows in the dappled shade cast by the Dicksonia .
    Adiantum venustum and Matteuccia struthiopteris come a close 2nd & 3rd.
    Would post some pictures but I am still the owner of a dumb-phone ; the hammering it gets during work I doubt whether a smart-phone would stand it , :)

    B3 ......better keep an eye on you >:)
  • Hello @Paul B3! - I was thinking of this post (Your Honour, may I approach the bar to submit this evidence?) https://forum.gardenersworld.com/discussion/comment/1915572/#Comment_1915572 .
    I accept that you don't host a national collection, but it sounds as if you have quite a few! How are the acquisitions mentioned in that post doing (Dryopteris coreanomontana,  Doodia media, Dryopteris sieboldii )?

    My Asplenium trichomanes were planted in a pile of rocks / rough containing wall, and they have been hanging on for a few years but not really flourishing. What sort of soil do you have? A little earlier in this thread I listed some that I like and are doing well in my (enriched) clayey/chalky soil: Blechnum spicant, Dryopteris atrata, D. wallichiana, D. erythrosora, Cyrtomium falcatum, against a backdrop of assorted polystichums and polypodium. A patch of Adiantum venustum is doing well, but I am struggling with Arachnoides aristata 'Variegata'.

    The worst has been Coniogramme emeienssis. It died in a week on me. I probably didn't take sufficient care watering, but it gave up the ghost almost immediately.






  • Papi JoPapi Jo Posts: 4,254
    Hi all fern lovers! May I join this discussion and refer to this discussion of mine without being taxed with wanting to "raise the number of  visits" to that discussion and my own garden site? ;)
    My fern wall (oops, done it again) currently holds a mere 25 different species... but I am visiting an "open day cum plant fair" at a nursery this week-end where my favourite ferns nursery will be holding a stall, so am expecting a significant increase of that number.
    My favourite ferns so far:
    Arachniodes simplicior | holly fern
    Arachniodes standishii | upside-down fern
    Athyrium filix-femina ‘Frizelliae’ | tatting fern
    Athyrium niponicum ‘Metallicum’ | painted lady fern
    Cyrtomium falcatum | Japanese holly fern (planted in the soil, not on the wall, huge fronds)
    Cyrtomium fortunei var. clivicola |
    Dryopteris erythrosora var. prolifica | prolific copper shield fern...
  • The more the merrier @Papi Jo. That's a great thread, the wall looks superb. I will need to spend some time considering all the different species! I went back to my notes and realised I'm actually up to about 22 species, more than I thought. A fern  specialist nursery stall would lead to severe stress for me, I'd return home with a large number of ferns (following which the stress of finding planting spaces). From your list here the Arachniodes species are new to me and look wonderful. I love Cyrtomium falcatum. Mine is only a year old, so not yet majestic, but it has taken well. Perhaps my next fern-related post I might title 'Frond of ferns' as a general fern-related thread, or perhaps 'Fond of ferns' is more subtle.
  • Paul B3Paul B3 Posts: 3,154
    Hey micearguers !
    The acquisitions you mention are all doing well ; Dryopteris sieboldii in particular .
    I too struggle with Arachniodes aristata 'Variegata' ; it survives but never flourishes .
    My soil is neutral/slightly acid free-draining loam ; very nice but dries out a little bit too quickly during dry spells .
    The house was apparently built in the 1930's on what used to be centuries old orchards .
    Maybe decades of fallen apples contibuted to the slight acidity .
    Ferns are so diverse , as are trees in the genus Pinus which are understood to still be evolving in Mexico . Unfortunately tender in our climes , the shining beacon of the family must be Pinus montezumae ; beautiful .

    PS Once Cyrtomium falcatum gains stature , it's a real treat to behold .

  • Papi JoPapi Jo Posts: 4,254
    Paul B3 said:
    PS Once Cyrtomium falcatum gains stature , it's a real treat to behold .

    Very true, my 3 specimens, planted 4 years ago took some time to develop but are now splendid...
    Cyrtomium falcatum new frond

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