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Orange and lemon trees from seed

Morning all, I want to put small  Lemon, lime, orange , trees onto our now cleaned up Patio, doesn't get any sun (north facing) till 11am ish, and I have watched videos and read how to start sort of thing ,and am quite happy and ready to give them a try, Right question is ,are their better fruits to start of with ,as in what sort of orange is best type of thing, are some types easier to grow maybe ?, plenty of stuff on how, but none on what type to get a pip from, so what types did you get or does it not matter all,, many of em

Avagooden AlanB quite nice weather erein Notts,

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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    I wouldn't bother.   Growing anything from a pip means you can't predict what kind of plant you'll get so best to buy a small plant of a named variety best suited to your conditions.   I don't think a north facing terrace in the Midlands will be propitious. 

    Here I am in the sunny Vendée - Coast of Light - with more hours of sunshine than the Isle of Wight or Bordeaux and I grow my citrus plants in pots on the south side of the house and move them to a polytunnel for winter to keep off the frosts.  I have a Meyer Lemon - the hardiest - a Limquat and a Yuzu and, while the first two are flowering and fruiting well, the Yuzu is yet to flower let alone fruit.


    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • Agree with @Obelixx

    Ditto. 

    I’ve grown lots of citrus from seed with my children... the flowers smelled lovely in the conservatory but they never grew mature enough to hold their fruit. 

    If you want fruit grow a named variety and keep them in a cool greenhouse or similar over winter until the last frosts are over.  



    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • I just grow from pips for a cheap house plant, I wouldnt bother with any citrus,even my lemon tree I had in Spain didnt do anything,it grew the blossom,then tiny lemons which promptly fell off. 
    The whole truth is an instrument that can only be played by an expert.
  • I remember grapefruit as having the best perfume. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Alan4711Alan4711 Posts: 1,657
    you lot must love spending my money, PIPS are free!!  BUT ok I will take all that and buy a lemon for the conservatory from the G/centre ,many thanks for all the advice ,may have saved me a lot of trouble, Avagooden Alan
  • Alan4711Alan4711 Posts: 1,657
    Right! now I don't know about the year Dot BUT!! around 3 years ago I managed to grow 2 lemon pips ,what sort I have no idea,but they are now on the Patio around 18" high but everyone said they look nice but will NEVER fruit !! Hence My 0question of type to grow, then on here I see YUZU ?? read up on them and very interesting so, I'm going to get one if I can, and I will put pics of my lemon tree up ? if I get fruit so your on Phillippasmith2, and as we have no intention of moving house again in the future our growing list is getting quite exciting, now what about a grapefruit pip I'm thinking D
  • BigladBiglad Posts: 3,265
    I share your enthusiasm for "owt fer nowt" @Alan4711 and have two apple trees in my garden grown from pips. I have orange and lemon pips ready to go too.

    However, I fear the miserable beggars ;) dampening our spirits on here know a thing or three. They will be right and no fruit will be borne from our endeavours!
    East Lancs
  • Alan4711Alan4711 Posts: 1,657
    probably spot ons BUT if at first ! No your right ,get one with a different starter pack on the bottom ,,save some Graft.
  • I have a apple tree which must have grown from a pip it must be getting on for ten years old now,i wish I had moved it to another spot it has given us loads of apples over the last four years,I am thinking about taking some cuttings and grafting them on a smaller root stock.They are sweet and juicy they also cook and freeze well you don't need any sugar,they are ready to eat at the start of August,the only problem they don't store well.
  • fidgetbonesfidgetbones Posts: 17,618
    That sounds like an excellent idea. There was an old apple tree next door to us that bore wonderful fruit, but the tree fell over and died before I though of grafting a bit.  I spent yesterday peeling early worcester apples. If the wind didn't get them, the blackbirds seem to have had a peck in most of them. A dozen decent ones in the fridge to last until the Cox and James Grieve are ready, a couple of dozen cut up and frozen ready for winter. No sugar needed.  I bought some dwarf apple trees , mainly to provide pollen for the big James Grieve, after it lost its pollinator next door.  They are a lot easier to control and thin and give better quality fruit than the big tree.
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