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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    I haven't bothered googling @steveTu.  Interviews with WHO personnel and reports on the News about what their top bods are saying are enough for me.  They are following the data in every member country and collating it and coming up with advice - better with a mask than without in public gatherings and places but also key to maintain distancing and personal and domestic hygiene so the virus can't spread thru coughs, sneezes and contact.

    It's not rocket science, just common sense.

     
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    Aaaah, but what is common sense exactly? That by touching an infected mask you can pass on a virus? That you should change a mask frequently? That you shouldn't touch a mask other than by the 'strings'?
    Maybe reading the WHO Technical Advice will make it clearer - see the PDF on whether children should wear masks mid way down:

    ....as you can see the advice is nebulous to say the least - and still no studies. WHO advocate that if masks are implemented as an intervention for children then the implementors should be monitoring the situation and collecting the data - presumably to aid others in then forming an opinion on 'real' data (although how you determine how effective a mask is in an environment where you have no idea at to whether a virus is present or not is a bit beyond me - a bit like me saying I wear a mask to protect myself from polar bears and it must be effective as I've never been attacked by one).

    It may not be rocket science, but I see, saw and continue to see people touching masks - from medical people at broadcast TV matches to till operators in SM to people in the street. But it's common sense not to touch a mask isn't it? If adults continue to (ab)use masks, what chance children?


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  • KT53KT53 Posts: 9,016
    Hostafan1 said:

    Jeez.  If you go back far enough you will probably be able to connect any newspaper with any political view you want to mention.  The BUF ceased to exist before WW2.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited August 2020
    @KT53 .... that leopard hasn't changed its spots .... did you read the second article I linked to?

    "...As the Second World War loomed, the Daily Mail began to change its editorial line and moved away from explicitly supporting fascists and their regimes. But, the racism and xenophobia remained a key part of their ‘journalism’ and has continued through to this day.

    A few weeks before the 2012 Olympics, the Mail claimed that the British team had 61 plastic Brits” due to the fact they had been born oversees, ignoring the fact that the majority of the 61 were entitled to British citizenship from birth due to having British heritage. Also, this takes a very narrow, and frankly wrong, approach to what it means to be British.

    The Mail was also outraged when the opening ceremony depicted a multicultural family. Because, according to Rick Dewsbury, it was "absurd" and "unrealistic" to show a "mixed-race middle-class family in a detached new-build home". For him, this was done to appease the politically correct agenda that supposedly exists in Britain as he believes that in reality it would be a "challenge […] to find an educated white middle-aged mother and black father living together with a happy family in such a set-up". After a flurry of complaints the Mail simply took the offending material off its website without uttering a word and definitely not an apology. However, an archived screen print can still be found.

    In 2014 the Mail published a cartoon likening migrants to rats. Not only is the cartoon racist in its portrayal of Muslims - one man cannot be seen in any other detail other than his beard and a rifle poking out of his bag - but the choice of animal used harks back to Hitler’s Germany in 1939 when cartoons in newspapers often depicted Jews as rats - vermin that had to be got rid of... "


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  • debs64debs64 Posts: 5,184
    Re masks for young people i very much doubt they will be worn correctly as most adults don’t manage to do that and there are so many children who will be exempt that the whole exercise is completely pointless. 
    I am concerned about the amount of young people who are really frightened of Covid and the effect on their mental health. The risk to them is so small. Let’s hope common sense prevails and they can enjoy their school days again. 
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    As ever @steveTu you are unnecessarily flogging moribund horses.

    I have 9 masks I can change between.  I have also made a selection for OH and Possum and all the ladies in my patch group have been making them for their friends and families since mid March.  You are way behind the times!

    I know to touch them only by the elastics when I'm putting them on, wearing them and removing them.   I now about children under a certain age not wearing them and also people with certain medical conditions.

    It is our collective responsibility to do our utmost to limit the spread of the virus about which info/data/treatments/research are evolving far too fast for "studies" so we have to go on observed data.   

    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • Hostafan1Hostafan1 Posts: 34,889
    @KT53 .... that leopard hasn't changed its spots .... did you read the second article I linked to?

    "...As the Second World War loomed, the Daily Mail began to change its editorial line and moved away from explicitly supporting fascists and their regimes. But, the racism and xenophobia remained a key part of their ‘journalism’ and has continued through to this day.

    A few weeks before the 2012 Olympics, the Mail claimed that the British team had 61 plastic Brits” due to the fact they had been born oversees, ignoring the fact that the majority of the 61 were entitled to British citizenship from birth due to having British heritage. Also, this takes a very narrow, and frankly wrong, approach to what it means to be British.

    The Mail was also outraged when the opening ceremony depicted a multicultural family. Because, according to Rick Dewsbury, it was "absurd" and "unrealistic" to show a "mixed-race middle-class family in a detached new-build home". For him, this was done to appease the politically correct agenda that supposedly exists in Britain as he believes that in reality it would be a "challenge […] to find an educated white middle-aged mother and black father living together with a happy family in such a set-up". After a flurry of complaints the Mail simply took the offending material off its website without uttering a word and definitely not an apology. However, an archived screen print can still be found.

    In 2014 the Mail published a cartoon likening migrants to rats. Not only is the cartoon racist in its portrayal of Muslims - one man cannot be seen in any other detail other than his beard and a rifle poking out of his bag - but the choice of animal used harks back to Hitler’s Germany in 1939 when cartoons in newspapers often depicted Jews as rats - vermin that had to be got rid of... "

    Lord Rothermere was invited to the first dinner party given by Hitler when he became chancellor in 1933. That's pretty chummy don't you think @K@KT53 ?
    Devon.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    I imagine that schoolchildren will have instruction at school about how to use masks properly ... that's a lot more than most adults will have had ... I find the majority of youngsters are pretty capable of following clear instructions if the whys and wherefores are properly explained to them. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





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