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Reclaimed part of the garden do i turn over all of the soil or just part?

During lockdown and working from home i have finally decided to reclaim our top section of garden which was home to brambles, bushes ivy and plenty of weeds.
most of it has been cleared, i am still finding the odd bramble root.
I want to use the area to grow veg and flowers and have already started to turn over the ground near the fence panels so the flowers can be planted, but its a reasonable size and i want the centre of the garden to plant plenty of veg.
Do I turn over the entire ground all in one go to get rid of as many weeds as possibly or do i do it piecemeal and hope that any weeds don't encroach on anywhere that i have already turned over?
I am turning over by hand rather than using a rotovator.


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  • Fantastic clearance effort. Of course you want to get planting. For new areas in my garden I use the no-dig method pioneered by Charles Dowding. It saves a lot of effort and benefits the soil. If this is of interest, here's the link to get you started https://charlesdowding.co.uk/start-here/
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    That looks like a mammoth job!

    I think you need to draw a plan on paper of where you want flower beds and where you want fruit and veg and how best to take advantage of the fences which will make good supports for climbing plants such as roses and clematis but also blackberries and fan trained apples/pears/cherries/plums.

    I would then fork over the beds where planting will be permanent, rake it level, pile on a good thick layer of well-rotted manure and get trees and climbers planted this autumn.  
    You could also mark out and do the same for a bed that will hold plants such as raspberries, red and blackcurrants, gooseberries, rhubarb.   

    That leaves vegetable beds and, apart form asparagus and glove artichokes, these tend to be annual plants grown in a 3 or 4 year rotation.  These beds you could simply rake smooth and cover with cardboard - minus tape and staples.   Cover the cardboard with organic matter form a compost heap or buy in some cheap MPC and/or well-rotted manure.

    I would advise you to consult the RHS website for info on crop rotation and also Garden organic and have a look for info about Charles Dowding and his No Dig method for growing veg.   Between them you'll minimise the digging, work out what and when to grow and when to apply manures or lime and so on to promote better crops and reduce damage from pests and diseases.


    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Hence the suggestion to plan it and lay cardboard on the bits that can wait till next spring and do some research.

    Even if they only use stones or pegs to hold it down it will block light, prevent germination of weeds and will also rot down and be an asset to the soil and its micro-organisms.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • Thanks for the responses so far, it is quite a big plot of land and very much a work in progress, luckily for me the previous tennent put down some heavy carpet tiles which i found when trying to get the area cleared of weeds but most of them were buried about an inch plus under the ground, I hadn't disposed of these yet because of the purpose that they served could be used instead of cardboard.

    I will have to make a plan for what i want planted, this is on my to do list, sadly its quite a long list at the moment.

    Thank you for the advice all.
  • I don't have any practical advice to offer, but just wanted to say "bravo" for clearing all that by hand.  No matter whichever method you decide to adopt for starting your growing areas, you will have a fantastic feeling of achievement.  It appears that your garden slopes up quite a bit towards the back - I feel sure others will be able to make practical suggestions about orientation of veg beds, terracing for coping with the level changes, etc and hope to see an updated photo this time next year!

  • @purpletreacle Thank you, for many years it had just been left to grow wild and cut partially back once or twice a year and i have wanted to do something with it but it was a daunting task and still is by some account.

    I am not certain what to do about making the ground level, but i think that i may know more once i have got some plan in place, at the moment its a bit like not being about to see the woods through the trees.

    I will post an after picture at some point.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    The point about cardboard is that it rots down into the ground and is a benefit.  

    Carpet tiles, in general, are cheap synthetic materials and do not rot down and will be a hindrance, not to mention full of undesirable chemicals.   Bite the bullet and get rid.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • SydRoySydRoy Posts: 167
    Can I suggest you look at renovating or fixing the fences first. I'll be more difficult when the garden is more advanced. IMHO gardens always look better with well defined boundaries. Good luck tho..
  • @Obelixx Point taken I will see if I can source some large pieces, I have yet another skip run on monday so i will see if i can fit the tiles into the boot.

    @SydRoy I will try, the neighbour put the panels up on the right hand side, so did the previous neighbour.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Ask those neighbours then before you attach anything to their fence to support climbers - good neighbourly relations are important.

    Shops selling large items such as fridges and freezers and TVs would be good sources of cardboard as may the dump be if they have a paper and cardboard collection point but you'd have to ask.
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
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