Gemma, whether doves advice is old or not doesnt matter. You've clearly taken it as a insult to have knowledge thats old though; whereas I prize my old knowledge over new knowledge... some food for thought.
You may think that, not at all. You seem to be very defensive and very ready to make a lot of assumptions about other people. Did anyone get personal with you? No they did not. All people are doing is giving advice.
The only time I've heard of leaving the first flowers is for cold stored sets. If that is what you have that is fine. For bare root, the advice always has been and still is, to remove the first flush of flowers on ever bearing varieties.
It is very easy for me to check reputable sources and find out if something is a gardening myth or makes biological sense and is current up-to-date advice. So I know in this case Dove was perfectly correct in the advice you seem rather overly enthusiastic to dismiss.
Oh I'm not being defensive at all, I'm reading "advice" and responding to it. Thats usually how successful conversations run. Advice, is not required hear and obey instructions, which is what you're insinuating whether you mean to or not; there's plently of perfectly intelligent "counter advice" to any advice thats given. If that notion cannot be accepted, the conversation ends there.
I could give you some advice on my religion of choice for example and show you intelligent proof - difference is I wouldn't sit there and say its 80 year old advice handed down through the generations and perfectly biologically and morally correct and sound, so you're not allowed to dismiss it enthusiastically lol.
A conversation is an exchange of knowledge which to be honest dove and I did perfectly fine, before the need arose from a third party to affirm one opinion in a rather passive aggressive way.
There are pros and cons to removing the first years flowers, and I, as the only person in this thread with complete knowledge and understanding of my specific situation have made the decision that removing flowers isnt the best decision for me.
Its ok to read that, accept it and move on without feeling like one is 'ignoring advice' and thus must be made to "listen".
I appreciate and enjoy reading especially different opinions to my own, that is how we grow. Delving into and challanging different viewpoints is a good thing to do, it garners more knowledge.
Gemma, whether doves advice is old or not doesnt matter. You've clearly taken it as a insult to have knowledge thats old though; whereas I prize my old knowledge over new knowledge... some food for thought.
You may think that, not at all. You seem to be very defensive and very ready to make a lot of assumptions about other people. Did anyone get personal with you? No they did not. All people are doing is giving advice.
The only time I've heard of leaving the first flowers is for cold stored sets. If that is what you have that is fine. For bare root, the advice always has been and still is, to remove the first flush of flowers on ever bearing varieties.
It is very easy for me to check reputable sources and find out if something is a gardening myth or makes biological sense and is current up-to-date advice. So I know in this case Dove was perfectly correct in the advice you seem rather overly enthusiastic to dismiss.
Oh I'm not being defensive at all, I'm reading "advice" and responding to it. Thats usually how successful conversations run. Advice, is not required hear and obey instructions, which is what you're insinuating whether you mean to or not; there's plently of perfectly intelligent "counter advice" to any advice thats given. If that notion cannot be accepted, the conversation ends there.
I could give you some advice on my religion of choice for example and show you intelligent proof - difference is I wouldn't sit there and say its 80 year old advice handed down through the generations and perfectly biologically and morally correct and sound, so you're not allowed to dismiss it enthusiastically lol.
A conversation is an exchange of knowledge which to be honest dove and I did perfectly fine, before the need arose from a third party to affirm one opinion in a rather passive aggressive way.
There are pros and cons to removing the first years flowers, and I, as the only person in this thread with complete knowledge and understanding of my specific situation have made the decision that removing flowers isnt the best decision for me.
Its ok to read that, accept it and move on without feeling like one is 'ignoring advice' and thus must be made to "listen".
I appreciate and enjoy reading especially different opinions to my own, that is how we grow. Delving into and challanging different viewpoints is a good thing to do, it garners more knowledge.
Welcome to my block list. You responded exactly the same to advice on Pumpkins where you knew best. Why bother asking if you know better already?
What is patently obvious is that you have not quite developed enough to ask the right questions in the first place. Which is fine, there are lot of people starting out ask advice here, but the attitude you bring with it doesn't sit well.
Obviously you can do what you want, just don't be unpleasant and read into people's posts more than what was there.
You asked Dove was it 'old advice' I affirmed it was current advice. You made the assumption I was insulted by the use of the term 'old' for whatever reason only known to yourself and obviously felt the need to express that. I made that point very clearly in my last post.
It is a public 'forum' people will read posts and try to help you get a clear understanding if they can. Sorry I bothered with you, we all do it for free on here taking our own time to do so.
For the record, it is not the heat, I don't suffer fools gladly on cold days either.
Really, what a rude person you are gemma. Almost impossible to actually have a decent conversation with you. I think I'll be just fine with missing out on your pushy un needed and un asked for "help" if you cant conduct a civil conversation. Goodbye.
A conversation is an exchange of knowledge which to be honest dove and I did perfectly fine, before the need arose from a third party to affirm one opinion in a rather passive aggressive way.
Interesting how two people’s experience of the same thing can be so very different 🙄
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
A conversation is an exchange of knowledge which to be honest dove and I did perfectly fine, before the need arose from a third party to affirm one opinion in a rather passive aggressive way.
Interesting how two people’s experience of the same thing can be so very different 🙄
Well I'm sorry you learnt nothing; nothing more I can do for that *shrugs*
Same! Which is why I said we exchanged knowledge perfectly fine even if it wasn't about strawberries. To gain any sort of understanding, costs nothing.
There are people who follow advice and people who are sceptical and ask questions. I am in the second group. My mother told me that as a small child, I didn't believe her that a stove is hot and had to try. There are people who have to burn themselves. Most of the time, they suffer for their distrust of authorities but sometimes they find new and innovative ways how to do things. I don't remove strawberry flowers, the cost of losing the fruit seems too much no matter the reward. So the strawberries won't be growing as quickly as they could. So what. I am with you Sabina13, I've never done it and my strawberries never seemed to struggle. But maybe, if I were able to sacrifice the first berries, there would be significantly more later. I don't know.
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I could give you some advice on my religion of choice for example and show you intelligent proof - difference is I wouldn't sit there and say its 80 year old advice handed down through the generations and perfectly biologically and morally correct and sound, so you're not allowed to dismiss it enthusiastically lol.
A conversation is an exchange of knowledge which to be honest dove and I did perfectly fine, before the need arose from a third party to affirm one opinion in a rather passive aggressive way.
There are pros and cons to removing the first years flowers, and I, as the only person in this thread with complete knowledge and understanding of my specific situation have made the decision that removing flowers isnt the best decision for me.
Its ok to read that, accept it and move on without feeling like one is 'ignoring advice' and thus must be made to "listen".
I appreciate and enjoy reading especially different opinions to my own, that is how we grow. Delving into and challanging different viewpoints is a good thing to do, it garners more knowledge.
What is patently obvious is that you have not quite developed enough to ask the right questions in the first place. Which is fine, there are lot of people starting out ask advice here, but the attitude you bring with it doesn't sit well.
Obviously you can do what you want, just don't be unpleasant and read into people's posts more than what was there.
You asked Dove was it 'old advice' I affirmed it was current advice. You made the assumption I was insulted by the use of the term 'old' for whatever reason only known to yourself and obviously felt the need to express that. I made that point very clearly in my last post.
It is a public 'forum' people will read posts and try to help you get a clear understanding if they can. Sorry I bothered with you, we all do it for free on here taking our own time to do so.
For the record, it is not the heat, I don't suffer fools gladly on cold days either.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.