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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    I think you're being naive @KT53.   They don't have spare capacity!  Not without putting their own people at risk from being too close to others and not having their own PPE while they work or else at the cost of depriving their own health and care workers of the PPE they need - all in the name of profit!!


    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    Setting aside the moral and ethical arguments (not that I disagree with them) @Obelixx and @KT53, there are two principal reasons why importing PPE from outside the EU is not advisable.

    1. The EU have rigorous quality/H&S requirements to guarantee the effectiveness of PPE to ensure the protection of health care professionals and other essential workers. There is no guarantee that imports from the developing world can or will comply with these, therefore potentially putting front line staff and the public at risk.

    2. Taking the UK as an example, there is no shortage of PPE manufacturers willing to supply, and ramp up production and distribution to supply, the necessary PPE. Many UK-based PPE suppliers have been lobbying, nay pleading, with Government and the health service to allow them to help and to tell them what products are required and in what quantity. The only reason UK PPE suppliers are exporting UK-manufactured PPE is because of a deafening silence/extremely slow response if they get one/insistence on maintaining the normal EU procurement process - when the rest of the EU is ignoring the latter, because we are not in normal circumstances.

    Thanks very much for that recent shipment of PPE to Spain, btw, much appreciated.
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    "Experts say" "Say experts"
    Why does a news article containing these words make me come over all cynical?
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • NollieNollie Posts: 7,529
    ‘We’ve had enough of experts’. Hmm, who was it again that said that...
    Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited April 2020
    If we don’t take notice of experts who are we going to get information from to base our decisions on ... those who know nothing? 🙄 

    Who will you choose to perform your brain surgery ... an expert brain surgeon or a journalist? 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    My point is, I would like to know the name of and what qualifies the person to make the statement rather than "Experts say". Much the same as "statistics prove" "eight out of 10 cat owners...." "dentists recommend" " kills up to 100% of... "
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    With regard to manufacture of ppe in this country,I saw this just now
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-52358036
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • punkdocpunkdoc Posts: 15,039
    One of the biggest problems in recent years, has been our failure to listen to experts.
    How can you lie there and think of England
    When you don't even know who's in the team

    S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    I agree but I would still like them to be identified. Links or footnotes would be good
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    Note their names and google them @B3!
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
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