@sarinka your David Austin roses will come with a booklet explaining the basics of rose planting, care and pruning, more on their website, but otherwise you are in the right place for advice already so ask away 😃
Black Baccara is a Hybrid tea rose. They have a stuff, upright growth form and have a different approach to pruning to the other shrub roses - basically whack them down to 25-30cm as opposed to the other shrub roses where a lighter pruning to shape them, up to a third off, is all that is required. Otherwise planting, feeding, deadheading etc. are the same.
I would say if you were going to swap any rose, swap Black Baccara, it is a fairly old one now and has a dreadful reputation for disease. There are more modern HTs that are vastly improved and much healthier. Bear in mind too, that the blooms will rarely be that exaggerated dark colour in the catalogue, mostly they will be red.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Placed my first order with TCL this week. Looking for mixture of repeat flowerers that can either go into pots or beds: Fancy Balylon Eyes, Aquarell (spotted on a number of posts), Julia's Child, Gruss an Tepliz, Duftzauber, Betty Boop (couldn't resist), Acapella. Delivery early November. Can't wait.
@Mr. Vine Eye I remember a very long cane on my climbing rose snapped in the wind with only a tiny section of bark holding it together on one side. Not knowing any better I put an Elastoplast around it to hold it together and by the time the weather had rotted the "dressing" the pieces had knitted together beautifully. All that remains now is a bit of a bump.
I bought a lot of roses last year and it is too early to judge but my fav five have been munstead wood, gabriel oak, desdemona, westerland and velvet fragrance.
Which ones have been your five fav roses, all time or this year?
@Mr. Vine Eye I remember a very long cane on my climbing rose snapped in the wind with only a tiny section of bark holding it together on one side. Not knowing any better I put an Elastoplast around it to hold it together and by the time the weather had rotted the "dressing" the pieces had knitted together beautifully. All that remains now is a bit of a bump.
Yes I've heard tell of this sort of thing before with plants. I've just fixed mine by thing the cane to another so it's being held in such a way that it's pieced back together as closely as possible.
It seems to be working, as the leaves started looking a bit floppy the other day, now they look normal again.
@newbie77 - 5 is hard! Especially as it's hard to judge the new ones yet as most of them haven't done a huge amount this first year, just given glimpses into what the future might hold.
But I think id choose these three as my top favourites in the garden, not in any particular order:
Royal Jubilee Malvern Hills The Generous Gardener
Unsurprisingly they're my oldest roses (2nd year) and they've given a lot this year.
It's hard to just pick two from the others.
But Vanessa Bell and Desdemona have both performed really well in their first year and produced far more flowers than any of the other new ones.
But that doesn't mean I wouldn't rate the others as highly. Some of the others I'm more excited about seeing how they do next year as I've really enjoyed their blooms and fragrance.
So hard! In fact there's very few that I don't rate highly at the moment. I've rewritten this multiple times before posting! 😆
@newbie77 I love a list! I don’t know Velvet Fragrance, must look that up. Tell is why you liked them too!
Well my absolute star rose won’t come as a surprise as I have been banging on about it so much and it’s now my avatar!
1. Stormy Weather - just all-round fabulous, continuously floriferous and disease-free. 2. Munstead Wood - a surprise entry - two amazing flushes, deeply dark fruity scent.
3. Julia Child - continuously smothered in lovely blooms for months. She is naked underneath due to blackspot tho, ‘all fur coat and no knickers’ as dear mum would say.
4. Diamond Eyes - plucky, continuous little bloomer, great colour, spicy clove scent. 5. La Rose de Molinard - very slow to grow, poor rain resistance, but otherwise healthy with gorgeous, glowing pink blooms and intense grapefruit sherbert scent!
1, 4 and 5 are new roses. Astronomia just missed out.
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
I love red roses, but out of 4-5 types I have, Velvet Fragrance is the only one reliably flowering. Rest gave a couple of blooms and are either sleeping or growing canes and leaves. Hopefully they will be better next year.
Yes Julia Child has been very good for first year itself. I have it in shade and still it has been blooming well and grown to good size. Out of all my yellows she is is doing best.
I guess my biggest disappointments will be more surprising than success. Jubilee celebration, Gräfin diana and Princess Alexendra of Kent have been doing nothing at all. They are hardly a foot high and gave me only 2-3 floppy blooms in this whole year! I need to have some patience.
@Mr. Vine Eye, I have only place for one rambler type rose. Do you have Ghislaine de Feligonde ? Out of Malvern hill and Ghislaine de Feligonde which one would be better? My main issue will be that at that location, I wont be able to deadhead or support much. It will have to lean itself to fence and stay there.
Celebration 2000 - a few years old, this has been its best year for flowering and it has now chucked out some new red canes, happy and hardworking
Ness - new this year from bare root, it's got a slight smattering of blackspot now but unless something goes terribly wrong, it's been cheerful and buoyant all year
Rhapsody in Blue - Garden Stalwart, thought I'd killed it last year after moving but is doing great this year
The Poet's Wife - new this year from bare root, I've just really enjoyed getting to know it
For no. 5 I thought I'd award a 'Most Improved' to Tuscany. Still too big for it's boots but it didn't collapse this year and showed it's value as a once flowerer.
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Black Baccara is a Hybrid tea rose. They have a stuff, upright growth form and have a different approach to pruning to the other shrub roses - basically whack them down to 25-30cm as opposed to the other shrub roses where a lighter pruning to shape them, up to a third off, is all that is required. Otherwise planting, feeding, deadheading etc. are the same.
munstead wood, gabriel oak, desdemona, westerland and velvet fragrance.
Which ones have been your five fav roses, all time or this year?
It seems to be working, as the leaves started looking a bit floppy the other day, now they look normal again.
@newbie77 - 5 is hard! Especially as it's hard to judge the new ones yet as most of them haven't done a huge amount this first year, just given glimpses into what the future might hold.
But I think id choose these three as my top favourites in the garden, not in any particular order:
Royal Jubilee
Malvern Hills
The Generous Gardener
Unsurprisingly they're my oldest roses (2nd year) and they've given a lot this year.
It's hard to just pick two from the others.
But Vanessa Bell and Desdemona have both performed really well in their first year and produced far more flowers than any of the other new ones.
But that doesn't mean I wouldn't rate the others as highly. Some of the others I'm more excited about seeing how they do next year as I've really enjoyed their blooms and fragrance.
So hard! In fact there's very few that I don't rate highly at the moment. I've rewritten this multiple times before posting! 😆
Well my absolute star rose won’t come as a surprise as I have been banging on about it so much and it’s now my avatar!
1. Stormy Weather - just all-round fabulous, continuously floriferous and disease-free.
2. Munstead Wood - a surprise entry - two amazing flushes, deeply dark fruity scent.
5. La Rose de Molinard - very slow to grow, poor rain resistance, but otherwise healthy with gorgeous, glowing pink blooms and intense grapefruit sherbert scent!
1, 4 and 5 are new roses. Astronomia just missed out.
Yes Julia Child has been very good for first year itself. I have it in shade and still it has been blooming well and grown to good size. Out of all my yellows she is is doing best.
I guess my biggest disappointments will be more surprising than success. Jubilee celebration, Gräfin diana and Princess Alexendra of Kent have been doing nothing at all. They are hardly a foot high and gave me only 2-3 floppy blooms in this whole year! I need to have some patience.
I'm going to hand out 4 Sponge's Merit awards:
Celebration 2000 - a few years old, this has been its best year for flowering and it has now chucked out some new red canes, happy and hardworking
Ness - new this year from bare root, it's got a slight smattering of blackspot now but unless something goes terribly wrong, it's been cheerful and buoyant all year
Rhapsody in Blue - Garden Stalwart, thought I'd killed it last year after moving but is doing great this year
The Poet's Wife - new this year from bare root, I've just really enjoyed getting to know it
For no. 5 I thought I'd award a 'Most Improved' to Tuscany. Still too big for it's boots but it didn't collapse this year and showed it's value as a once flowerer.