Yes it is a shame about Burgundy Ice, @Marlorena, given the gorgeous, rich, velvety blooms, but that could well be it, it doesn’t like my humidity. I can’t decide whether to persevere with it or not, especially as Victoria Sponge’s is older and not much better by all accounts. Soul is very DA’esque, I agree, if it eventually gets even half as floriferous as TaB I will be happy indeed!
I try to ‘do my bit’ by answering questions where I can, but also get peeved when people don’t bother to acknowledge my or other people’s input. Even of newbies don’t realise it’s a public forum and think they are asking official GW experts or something, that’s never an excuse bad manners. God that makes me sound old!!!
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
@Marlorena I did wonder if the mature bud may have been chewed on the edges by some critter ie the caterpillar that I spotted on a separate but nearby rose.. and therefore creating that frilly effect.. a couple of the other roses on my Desdemona have the same appearance too. I don’t mind it frankly.. it’s a different look and the plant is still blooming.
My Sceptr’d isle is doing well now.. this is the most intact bloom so far.. it’s first flush this year was muddled by the long period of rain so I think the latest dry spell is providing it with the limelight it so needed..
What do folks think of this? New Chateau de Cheverny (Belle de Jour). Kept in the original pot in shade for a few days to acclimatise from it’s trip from Germany, repotted and placed in dappled sun, temps been around 28c. Seems an extreme reaction to see the budding blooms so drooped, frazzled and burnt - just transplant/climate shock? Rose de Rescht and Heidi Klum from the same order are fine...
Mountainous Northern Catalunya, Spain. Hot summers, cold winters.
Glad to hear you will be still watching this thread @Marlorena, and thankyou for helping and inspiring me to continue with roses. Hope to see lovely photos in the future.
One of the milestones I’ve achieved this year is to learn to live with blackspots.. and that was hugely inspired by you. I hardly spray my roses these days.. and to my surprise the fungal issues don’t seem to get any worse compared to the past when I used to spray religiously. I also feel much better knowing I’m not killing any little visitors that come to my balcony. I simply take the leaves off if they get heavily infected.. otherwise I’ve learned appreciate the beauty in the imperfection.
@Nollie ..ugh!.. that's rather an inauspicious beginning.. can only get better surely .. @purplerallim ..oh thanks so much, I did set out to inspire people.. I'd like to think I helped out a bit..
@celcius_kkw ..I'm pleased about that.. it's always good to develop a reasonable level of tolerance, although there does come a time when it becomes so stretched that action has to be taken of some sort... needn't tell you what mine is..
Incidentally, regarding black spot disease, I'll just pass on this bit of information which members might find of interest, perhaps to answer a future question on the subject..
There are 13 strains [races] of Diplocarpon rosea [black spot] in the Northern Hemisphere.. they are listed below and are all different, so resistance against one does not mean against any of the others.. ..you will notice Germany has 4, hence their reputation for producing disease resistant roses.. ... you will also notice the names of two roses.. Brite Eyes and Morden Blush.. 2 American roses that were tested under laboratory conditions against all 13 strains... Morden Blush failed against all of them.. Brite Eyes was caught out by only one, Isolate number 12.. it has been found that Brite Eyes has a single gene that confers this immunity, and it passes this on to 50 percent of any offspring.
Brite Eyes is a product of the American 'Knockout' series of roses, which have Rosa rugosa in their lineage.. the other parent is the Austin rose 'Abraham Darby'... it isn't known from which line it got this special gene from, but it seems unlikely to be the Austin rose.. hope this is of interest to members..
@Marlorena Omori is right, most of us here have young roses and no one has your experience. You are truly the heart of the rose community here (at least from my point of view). But forum time should be a happy time for you, so do whatever you need to do to keep it that way. I am always happy to see your posts.
Interesting about the BS. I wonder how much are resistances against different strains correlated. The previous post about fragrances was also interesting, I should try to get to my garden in the morning more often.
@Nollie Lovely roses, as always. My Astronomia grows very differently from yours. Tiny and blackspotty. I feel like there is something wrong with the part of the border it is in. It is amended, it has sun, no visible problems and it can't be rose replant disease but Scepter'd Isle also struggles there.
I like the look of your Soul. It doesn't have that very stiff look which I don't like in some Tantau and Kordes roses. It's also one of those rare roses which rate 4/4 for blackspot resistance on Tantau website and have a strong fragrance... the jackpot combo of disease resistant roses. So it naturally has my attention. Thanks for showing it in and reviewing.
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My Sceptr’d isle is doing well now.. this is the most intact bloom so far.. it’s first flush this year was muddled by the long period of rain so I think the latest dry spell is providing it with the limelight it so needed..
..ugh!.. that's rather an inauspicious beginning.. can only get better surely ..
@purplerallim
..oh thanks so much, I did set out to inspire people.. I'd like to think I helped out a bit..
@celcius_kkw
..I'm pleased about that.. it's always good to develop a reasonable level of tolerance, although there does come a time when it becomes so stretched that action has to be taken of some sort... needn't tell you what mine is..
There are 13 strains [races] of Diplocarpon rosea [black spot] in the Northern Hemisphere.. they are listed below and are all different, so resistance against one does not mean against any of the others..
..you will notice Germany has 4, hence their reputation for producing disease resistant roses..
... you will also notice the names of two roses.. Brite Eyes and Morden Blush.. 2 American roses that were tested under laboratory conditions against all 13 strains... Morden Blush failed against all of them.. Brite Eyes was caught out by only one, Isolate number 12.. it has been found that Brite Eyes has a single gene that confers this immunity, and it passes this on to 50 percent of any offspring.
Brite Eyes is a product of the American 'Knockout' series of roses, which have Rosa rugosa in their lineage.. the other parent is the Austin rose 'Abraham Darby'... it isn't known from which line it got this special gene from, but it seems unlikely to be the Austin rose.. hope this is of interest to members..