Good to hear that folks found the RI lectures informative. It's hard to judge, when you already know a bit about the subject, but there's always something to learn. There were a couple of bits when I thought the facts might get a bit lost in all the wizz bang of the presentation but overall I thought they were v good. I expected nothing less from JVT.
@thrxvs - I did not say obesity was not a problem for the NHS but it is chronic, rather than acute, and not causing all emergency and ITU centres to be clogged. Nor, unlike the pandemic, is it laying off large numbers of essential staff thru illness or the need to isolate.
Obesity and some cancers are avoidable but require long term programmes of education to teach people how to live and feed themselves to be healthier. Covid is a virus that can and will infect as many people as possible so it survives. The vaccine is the best way to prevent it wreaking havoc tho it still needs support from protective measures like masks, hygiene and keeping a distance.
Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
"The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
nobody really wants to talk about because to do so will raise awkward questions and challenge peoples absolute right to make choices in a left wing democracy
I wonder where this "left wing democracy" is of which you write, @thrxvs?
Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
Not all obesity is down to eating rubbish food or lack of exercise. Some people have health issues that cause obesity .Long term use of steroids and suffering Hypothyroidism are two reasons why some people gain weight .I was slim as a young woman .I have been Asthmatic all my life and in my early twenties nearly died twice .I cannot cope without steroids.I carry a card to inform anyone who needs to know that I am on long term steroids. Steroids cause weight gain .Also I was diagnosed with Hypothyroidism ten years ago and take Thyroxine.Hypothyroidism causes weight gain but this drug has not stopped me putting on weight .I do eat sensibly and the portions are small .I am not complaining I lead a relatively normal life apart from the occasional problems that these conditions cause .However i wanted to say that not all people who are obese are greedy or have an eating disorder. Many obese people have health issues that cause their obesity . I must say that I am NOT pointing the finger at anyone on this thread .I wanted to speak out about people with ongoing health issues who cannot control their weight. Thank you for reading this .I apologise , I have put this on the wrong thread .
On the subject of Covid I endorse wholeheartedly the need for as many people who can take the vaccine should do so for the common good .
Well said, @Rubee. There are a few 'lifestyle' conditions that are often pointed at as 'self inflicted' but, for most of them, it's much more complex than it's portrayed. Obesity is often not simply a matter of eating too much. Similarly, addictions are hard to understand if you aren't affected, especially ones without a chemical hook, like gambling. It isn't a question of just stopping - if 'problem' gamblers could 'just stop', they surely would. Much has been done to try to get a better, kinder understanding of mental health issues so it's not seen as 'OK' now to tell someone to 'just snap out of it' (though people still do - it's early days). But there are other, sometimes related, sometimes not, physical health issues that are not as 'self inflicted' as those not suffering from them can sometimes imply.
Gardening on the edge of Exmoor, in Devon
“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
I understand what you're saying @Rubee, and I would hope all right thinking people would also understand the difference between an illness or disease that you have no control over because it's genetic or, as in your case, due to medication, and those conditions which can be prevented by better choices. My sister is also in the same position as you re Thyroxin and a thyroid condition. She also struggles with her weight a lot, but uses a gym now, which she enjoys. Rather her than me - my idea of Hell It's unrealistic to compare these conditions [and the other ones mentioned] with the vaccine, as myself and others have described. It's a completely different scenario.
I'm still struggling to understand why people can't see the reality of it all. I think if @punkdoc looks in here, his head might explode. He's probably very tired of trying to clarify it.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
I liked the way JVT explained the protective and minimising measures of combining vaccines, masks, distance, ventilation and hand washing (and testing). One or two on their own aren’t the solution but it’s combining them all together that makes a big difference. I would also add that for most of us, who won’t become particularly ill from the virus, we do these things to protect others and to help the country, and NHS, coming to a standstill.
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Obesity and some cancers are avoidable but require long term programmes of education to teach people how to live and feed themselves to be healthier. Covid is a virus that can and will infect as many people as possible so it survives. The vaccine is the best way to prevent it wreaking havoc tho it still needs support from protective measures like masks, hygiene and keeping a distance.
I must say that I am NOT pointing the finger at anyone on this thread .I wanted to speak out about people with ongoing health issues who cannot control their weight. Thank you for reading this .I apologise , I have put this on the wrong thread .
“It's still magic even if you know how it's done.”
My sister is also in the same position as you re Thyroxin and a thyroid condition. She also struggles with her weight a lot, but uses a gym now, which she enjoys. Rather her than me - my idea of Hell
It's unrealistic to compare these conditions [and the other ones mentioned] with the vaccine, as myself and others have described. It's a completely different scenario.
I'm still struggling to understand why people can't see the reality of it all.
I think if @punkdoc looks in here, his head might explode. He's probably very tired of trying to clarify it.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
When you don't even know who's in the team
S.Yorkshire/Derbyshire border
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Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.