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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    I was aware of most of this but it's shocking to see it displayed chronologically
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • LiriodendronLiriodendron Posts: 8,328
    Thanks for that, @BobTheGardener.  Depressing but correct.  The rapid roll-out of vaccinations seems to be the only aspect the government has got right...
    Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    edited January 2021
    So long as extending the time between doses doesn't allow for resistant mutations to occur
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • YviestevieYviestevie Posts: 7,066
    Personally I think the NHS should be commended for getting the vacine roll out right.  Not the useless government that we currently have.  That video clip just shows how horrifically wrong they got it on every level and if I hear the excuse of 'hindsight' once more I think I'll scream.  They had notice of every single mistake they made.  They just dithered.  Johnson couldn't make a swift decision if his life depended on it. 
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  • LoxleyLoxley Posts: 5,698
    Personally I think the NHS should be commended for getting the vacine roll out right.  Not the useless government that we currently have.  That video clip just shows how horrifically wrong they got it on every level and if I hear the excuse of 'hindsight' once more I think I'll scream.  They had notice of every single mistake they made.  They just dithered.  Johnson couldn't make a swift decision if his life depended on it. 
    +1
    "What is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbour". 
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Loxley said:
    Personally I think the NHS should be commended for getting the vacine roll out right.  Not the useless government that we currently have.  That video clip just shows how horrifically wrong they got it on every level and if I hear the excuse of 'hindsight' once more I think I'll scream.  They had notice of every single mistake they made.  They just dithered.  Johnson couldn't make a swift decision if his life depended on it. 
    +1
    +2

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  • ObelixxObelixx Posts: 30,090
    +4
    Vendée - 20kms from Atlantic coast.
    "The price good men (and women) pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men (and women)."
    Plato
  • steveTusteveTu Posts: 3,219
    This is a tricky time eh? Who'd be in government?
    I don't like Boris and his team - but I'm not sure any gov wouldn't have had similar problems and tackled them in similar ways.
    However, two things over the past couple of days concerned me. Boris has been talking about learning lessons and saying now, again, that now isn't the time for an enquiry. This is an issue isn't it? - simply because the virus is cyclical. Fine, I recall him saying similar in the first wave and that at the time seemed more 'sensible', but by NOT learning the lessons in the first wave and not having an enquiry, doesn't that leave it open to making the same mistakes during wave 2, 3.....? Obviously any enquiry would have to have  been limited and quick - given the timeframes - say maybe it wouldn't have been practical anyway. But we do have to learn between the waves don't we or else we end up in Ground Hog Day.
    He also spoke in one of the briefings about how well we're now positioned for pandemics. But isn't that a slight nonsense? Isn't any pandemic going to come out of the blue - so even if we have shed loads of PPE, ICU kit etc now, how will we be in 50 years? Will that kit still be usable and will it still be there or have been 'purloined' in day-to-day use over time? It seems to me that the only way to prepare for a pandemic is to monitor how ready we are on a regular basis and to spend the money to keep the 'kit' up to date. How will that be received by the public when the NHS is always under funding pressure - and then a greater amount will be needed as time goes by to protect against the next pandemic. Would the public be happy spending to upgrade PPE and unused kit against some unknown virus that may not occur in their lifetime and not buying, say, more scanners and dialysis machines that their loved ones need now? Obviously we're better placed now to know kit/staff/consumable levels required for this pandemic - but how do you project that onto an unknown population size-age-health level, unknown pandemic symptoms etc in 20..50...100 years time? Or will it all be forgotten after all this is over and just becomes 'that' government's issue if and when it occurs again?

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  • B3B3 Posts: 27,505
    50 years ago,that's what we thought we'd be doing in the 21st century.
    In London. Keen but lazy.
  • Paul B3Paul B3 Posts: 3,154
    Paul B3 said:
    I am finding it utterly incredulous that people are still being allowed to flit the globe via air or sea ; their apparently implacable desire for foreign holidays posing an increasing risk to everyone else . All travel abroad , unless absolutely necessary should be banned .
    Personally I think that all suspected cases should be isolated until this is sorted out once and for all .
    Daily in the UK new infections are being reported ; I have an appointment at Hull Royal Infirmary at the end of March (just under four-weeks) . At this rate I will probably cancel because by that time maybe a hospital is not the ideal place to be !

    Seems a long while ago now ; will it ever go away??
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