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Raspberry Ruby Beauty

edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
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I bought raspberry Ruby Beauty last autumn from Thompson and Morgan (I have three in a very large pot). These are described as a dwarf (compact, patio) variety with canes under 1 meter, multibranching and thornless. They are summer fruiting on previous year growth so if I understand this correctly, they won't fruit this year.
But they either aren't as described or they are not Ruby Beauty. My plants are growing long canes, the longest one is over 2m (several shorter ones are around 1m). They are not too branching. And they are extremely thorny.
I tried to train them to contain them close to the planter but it resulted in several broken canes and my hands full of thorns (gloves don't help much). Do you think I should cut the canes back a bit to force them into branching? Anyone here growing this variety who could advise if I have the correct plants or something else?
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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Raspberry canes don’t usually branch a lot in their first year. 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Joy*Joy* Posts: 571
    I would contact T&M in the hope of getting them replaced. From my experience and reading several post here, they are not very good at their job and customer service isn't much cop either. However, if you don't ask you don't get. It does sound as though you haven't received what you ordered. 
  • Victoria SpongeVictoria Sponge Posts: 3,502
    edited July 2019
    I was just talking about these on my allotment thread...yours don't sound right at all

    I've had 3 in the ground for at least two years, they are compact, no mad long canes, maybe 12-18 inches high.

    Editing to add a photo when purchased in Oct 2017, as sale price potted plants at end of season from B&Q, they aren't much bigger now but bushier I think. Hope that helps confirm if you have the correct plants.

    Wearside, England.
  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    Thank you @Victoria Sponge, that helps. Are yours thornless? @Joy* You are probably right and I will try that.
  • Victoria SpongeVictoria Sponge Posts: 3,502
    I've never noticed any thorns but that's not to say there aren't any, @edhelka, I will check next time I go up. I remember cutting the old twigs out (not really canes) and don't recall any issues.

    I have the time frame wrong if the photo is when I planted, perhaps I have had them less time than I thought. I know they fruited well last year, more than my other young raspberries.
    Wearside, England.
  • AlchemistAlchemist Posts: 273
    @edhelka I have one in a pot and it’s definitely under 1 meter, bushier, with no thorns. Plus mine has some fruits now and it was planted early spring but bought around Christmas in a 2l pot. Will send a pic tomorrow. 
  • lizf4619lizf4619 Posts: 30
    I also have 3 of these from the same supplier. This is their second year and they are approx 18 x 18 inches each. We have had about 2 lbs of raspberries from each bush. I fed them with tomato feed. In September I'll have to cut them back and re-pot. Looks like I was one of the few lucky ones. 
  • Gandbun498Gandbun498 Posts: 1
    I have one of these and it fruited well in its first year. I cut it back after it finished fruiting.
    The second year it had canes growing up away from the bush and I had very little fruit that year. It seems to be doing the same thing this year. Do you think these suckers and should I dig down and cut them off where they are attached to the main bush?
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    @edhelka How did your Raspberry Beauties work out in the end?

  • edhelkaedhelka Posts: 2,351
    edited October 2020
    @Fire I still don't know what they are. I had a decent crop but they were on the acidic side and hard to pick (not separating from the stalk easily and when left longer, they started to rot). They were also very dark, maybe a loganberry or at least some blackberry blood in it, who knows. Good for yogurts with breakfast cereals though. As you can see, I wrapped all canes around the post, tying them together and to the post.
    EDIT: Looking at pictures now, I think it could be a tayberry.
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