Just imagine, @amancalledgeorge, if I objected to seeing "insufferably working class people" on Gardeners World...
For a start, you're making assumptions about class based - presumably - on accent. You have no idea of the background, or working life, of the people featured. In addition, nobody can help the "class" they were born into, and sharing spare seeds seems to me (yes, middle class, sorry!) an excellent thing to be doing.
Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
Not just on accent...it was about the whole set up. It was their particular wetness that was uninspiring, but I'm not their target market...don't want to live in an East Sussex hamlet surrounded by an all white populous, and their little contrived notions about some fantasy yesterday "society". From my European perspective it just feels so insular and closed. But we certainly co-exist at a 40 mile distance
@amancalledgeorge - you are of course entitled to live where you like and think what you like about those who live elsewhere... but I hope you take to heart, just a little bit, my comment about "insufferably working class" people. We'd all get on better if we ditched our prejudices about others.
Since 2019 I've lived in east Clare, in the west of Ireland.
Quite a few insufferable folk pop up from time to time on TV ... from all classes and walks of life ... it's such a shame that we are still such a class-ridden society ... and seemingly becoming more so
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I don't know who your celebs are really, and the section on the actress (?) Kate did drag. No more than, say, the houseboat woman, or the fella in the wheelchair with his tools, or that lady who planted seemingly eight million varieties of thyme in a couple of pots, or the Scottish man with that weedy mess of a garden. Perhaps I have a butterfly brain, but I think the editing could be a lot sharper in general.
I think that if gardening, in any form, brings us joy or relief or peace we should be jolly glad and allow time and tolerance to its many manifestations. There is no need for snobbery or impatience or carping because someone's taste is different from ones own.
I don’t turn on Match of the Day to see highlights of Oakham Utd vs. Holwell Sports.
On Gardeners’ World I expect to see inspirational gardens that have succeeded in what they’re trying to achieve. I then want an explanation of why they are successful and tips on how we might progress from where we are to where they are. For some that involves how to sow sunflowers and I am absolutely fine with that. The BBC’s remit, after all, is to entertain and to inform.
As licence fee payers we have a right to pass opinions on what the BBC is offering us. Offering informal feedback does not have the negative connotations of ‘carping’. I think the BBC has done a splendid job in bringing the programme to our screens every week during this time of crisis and that has inevitably meant compromises. Like others I think many features have gone on too long and I thought viewers’ videos was an excellent idea to fill the gaps. Repeats of past presentations is understandable.
I would be very interested to learn about the audience feedback to the show which I assume to be objectively collected. If I was on that panel I would have no hesitation in saying I thought producers made some poor choices of viewers’ gardens that were poorly tended and uninspiring. Yet I fully accept that I may be out of line. If so, I can easily live with that.
I agree that we all have a right to an opinion and usually the right to express it, but it is kinder to avoid personal insults such as insufferably middle class or weedy mess. And while one viewer might wish to see only the best, another might enjoy less perfect but more realistic gardens. I wouldn't bother with Match of the Day, but I might watch a school match if my son was playing. I like to see ordinary people gardening, as well as the super-stars. Uninspiring? I was inspired by that poor woman whose husband is so ill but the garden wasn't exceptional.
Sometimes a new or inexperienced gardener’s garden may be uninspiring ... but often inspiration can be found in the enthusiasm and enjoyment of that gardener.
I’ve loved that element of the viewers videos. 😊
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
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For a start, you're making assumptions about class based - presumably - on accent. You have no idea of the background, or working life, of the people featured. In addition, nobody can help the "class" they were born into, and sharing spare seeds seems to me (yes, middle class, sorry!) an excellent thing to be doing.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
On Gardeners’ World I expect to see inspirational gardens that have succeeded in what they’re trying to achieve. I then want an explanation of why they are successful and tips on how we might progress from where we are to where they are. For some that involves how to sow sunflowers and I am absolutely fine with that. The BBC’s remit, after all, is to entertain and to inform.
As licence fee payers we have a right to pass opinions on what the BBC is offering us. Offering informal feedback does not have the negative connotations of ‘carping’. I think the BBC has done a splendid job in bringing the programme to our screens every week during this time of crisis and that has inevitably meant compromises. Like others I think many features have gone on too long and I thought viewers’ videos was an excellent idea to fill the gaps. Repeats of past presentations is understandable.
I would be very interested to learn about the audience feedback to the show which I assume to be objectively collected. If I was on that panel I would have no hesitation in saying I thought producers made some poor choices of viewers’ gardens that were poorly tended and uninspiring. Yet I fully accept that I may be out of line. If so, I can easily live with that.
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
When you don't even know who's in the team
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