I’m worried about my Harlow Carr not showing any signs of life. I’ve just planted it January, but I was still expecting to see some leaf buds forming. Munstead Wood has fully formed leaves already. How is your Harlow Carr, @Nollie? Anyone else can help?
@pitter-patter You should be showing growth of some sort by now... can you show us a photo of the rose please?
@ImpatientGardener I love to see things like that, a beautiful shoot.. it's not always about flowers and scent I think..
@Nollie Worth a try Nollie, if it doesn't work, well nothing lost... I don't even know what breakfast t.v. is so I'm not around that early to bother .. there are all sorts of remedies out there... the fungus puts down roots on the rose leaf, grows and dies.. the black spots are actually the remains of the dead fungus.. the leaf dies then too and drops off..
@Jemula@Lizzie27 that's interesting… appreciate your input here.. I know you have some great roses..
Hi folks, @Marlorena I grow New Dawn I thought it was climber rather than a rambler. It's certainly a good doer. Flowers continuously all through the Summer and puts up with anything the weather throws at it. I have it planted with clematis Perle de Azur and they look lovely together.
I purchased Mayflower and Susan William Ellis at the same time, I knew they were sports from the same rose and because of that they have the same attributes two of which are good perfume and (as far as DA is aware) desease free. They have both performed well. Not the strongest perfume in the garden, that honour goes to Gertrude Jekyll and Gloriana, but so far definitely no disease.
This thread has got me browsing the DA catalogue now. Hubby will have a fit if order any more.
Yviestevie… I'm delighted you have New Dawn.. I only mentioned it in relation to sports as it has a fascinating history.. briefly.. its parent rose was called 'Dr. Van Fleet', a pink rambler that only flowered for a few weeks in June.. back in the 1920's in the U.S. forget where exactly. a farmer planted some bare rooted roses of Dr Van Fleet in a field and forgot about them.. the field was plowed up, run over by whatever machinery they used then and the roses all but destroyed... in Spring a shoot appeared above ground, and it flowered, and then it flowered again and again all summer...
They realised something extraordinary had happened as it was to set a new era for repeat blooming rambling or climbing roses... so they propagated it, and introduced the rose as 'New Dawn'.. and lucky to be alive … it was also the first plant of any sort in the world, to be patented, which protected the owners rights to it.
It's parent was usually referred to as a rambler, sometimes a climber, but the species it comes from rosa wichurana is always talked of in rambling terms.. I've only grown it like a rambler, but it can also be left to its own devices as a large shrub, rather unruly though.. climber or rambler.. whatever you choose really.. I hope it repeats well for you...
You are not the only one browsing the DA catalogue as a result of this thread, @Yviestevie! I keep looking up the roses mentioned and thinking, ooh, that one looks nice Gertrude Jekyll is the only one with a noticeable scent for me, my sense of smell not being great, but I’m hoping to be able to smell my new Mme. Hardys.
@pitter-patter my Harlow Carr is full of foliage, but is older than yours and weather-wise I’m slightly ahead of you in my location, but it was one of the last to leaf up...
Thanks for the further info re blackspot Marlorena.
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Thanks for the photo... rest assured, there's nothing wrong with your rose, it's very healthy and all the canes are green... it will soon start shooting out, there are many little pink buds waiting to burst open on those canes, I can see them... if you want to speed it up a bit, throw a bucket of water, preferably collected rain water, over the base of your rose... it's a great looking standard that... I might have pruned it back by half a month ago, but best not do that now as I know you're worried about it, so just leave it be..
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You should be showing growth of some sort by now... can you show us a photo of the rose please?
@ImpatientGardener
I love to see things like that, a beautiful shoot.. it's not always about flowers and scent I think..
@Nollie
Worth a try Nollie, if it doesn't work, well nothing lost... I don't even know what breakfast t.v. is so I'm not around that early to bother .. there are all sorts of remedies out there... the fungus puts down roots on the rose leaf, grows and dies.. the black spots are actually the remains of the dead fungus.. the leaf dies then too and drops off..
@Jemula @Lizzie27 that's interesting… appreciate your input here.. I know you have some great roses..
They realised something extraordinary had happened as it was to set a new era for repeat blooming rambling or climbing roses... so they propagated it, and introduced the rose as 'New Dawn'.. and lucky to be alive … it was also the first plant of any sort in the world, to be patented, which protected the owners rights to it.
It's parent was usually referred to as a rambler, sometimes a climber, but the species it comes from rosa wichurana is always talked of in rambling terms.. I've only grown it like a rambler, but it can also be left to its own devices as a large shrub, rather unruly though.. climber or rambler.. whatever you choose really.. I hope it repeats well for you...
@pitter-patter my Harlow Carr is full of foliage, but is older than yours and weather-wise I’m slightly ahead of you in my location, but it was one of the last to leaf up...
Thanks for the further info re blackspot Marlorena.