Hostafan1. Had you been in the Promised land when I was you would have seen the worst atrocities were Sect upon Sect of the same religion not agreeing and that was all religions including the above mentioned. We broke out long well polished bayonets with a well placed machine gun as cover to drive them apart. Why they continue to roof Churches with lead when there are other ways I do not know, they may not last as long but surely it is better than giving thieves a Christmas present every year. Frank. PS. Getting ready for large Family party now, me the Godfather down through the ages to Maisie from Canada ten months old. Tomorrow Christmas Dinner with SPROUTS here with some of the Family, Boxing day the other half will be here. That to me is Christmas not masses of consumer goods but being close and loving looking out for each other as we do. Merry Christmas to all see you next week probably, if I have recovered. Frank
Definitely in full curmudgeon mode now. We've just returned from the crem' gardens where my wife was putting some flowers at her parents' marker. The flowers go into a plastic vase with a spike on the bottom. They would anyway if some scrote hadn't stolen the vase. This happens on a regular basis despite the fact that the vase has her parents' names on it. I don't think you can sink much lower than to steal items from a memorial garden or cemetery.
Definitely in full curmudgeon mode now. We've just returned from the crem' gardens where my wife was putting some flowers at her parents' marker. The flowers go into a plastic vase with a spike on the bottom. They would anyway if some scrote hadn't stolen the vase. This happens on a regular basis despite the fact that the vase has her parents' names on it. I don't think you can sink much lower than to steal items from a memorial garden or cemetery.
Scum bags doesn't even begin to cover it. What's worse , is that it's probably now on someone else's grave.
Deeply depressing KT. You really can't sink much lower than that. On various occasions, I visit the cemetery where my niece is buried, and some of my parents' ashes are scattered. I have to say the whole place always looks nice, and is well looked after. It would be unbearable to think anyone would take something like that. I often reinstate items that have fallen over in windy weather on some of the nearby graves. It just seems sad to see them like that, especially when you read the inscriptions. I hoe nobody would mind. I certainly hope someone would do the same at my niece's grave.
Re the previous debate about lead. Why do they keep replacing the r*ddy roofs with more lead! Surely there must be an alternative, especially nowadays when they could still keep the appearance of lead, but make it of concrete or resin or some other material.
It's a place where beautiful isn't enough of a word....
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Re the previous debate about lead. Why do they keep replacing the r*ddy roofs with more lead! Surely there must be an alternative, especially nowadays when they could still keep the appearance of lead, but make it of concrete or resin or some other material.
Zinc would do the trick. lighter, cheaper and less attractive to theives
In the village where I used to live the lead was removed and sold to provide funds for some major restoration work in the huge church and it was re-roofed with slate ........... most of which blew off in the Great Storm of '87
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
A lot of churches are listed buildings. Ask the listed buildings officer why he keeps insisting lead is the only 'appropriate' material to use for the repairs. It's a very sore subject in a lot of cases.
If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
A lot of churches are listed buildings. Ask the listed buildings officer why he keeps insisting lead is the only 'appropriate' material to use for the repairs. It's a very sore subject in a lot of cases.
and ask why they rarely have adequate insurance cover
I bet the premiums for churches must be so high that only god himself can see them. And insurance companies will sell their souls to get out of paying out on any claims.
If you can keep your head, while those around you are losing theirs, you may not have grasped the seriousness of the situation.
I bet the premiums for churches must be so high that only god himself can see them. And insurance companies will sell their souls to get out of paying out on any claims.
The Church of England ( the usual victim ) isn't exactly poor is it? Surely they can sort out a decent insurer?
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Why they continue to roof Churches with lead when there are other ways I do not know, they may not last as long but surely it is better than giving thieves a Christmas present every year.
Frank.
PS. Getting ready for large Family party now, me the Godfather down through the ages to Maisie from Canada ten months old.
Tomorrow Christmas Dinner with SPROUTS here with some of the Family, Boxing day the other half will be here.
That to me is Christmas not masses of consumer goods but being close and loving looking out for each other as we do.
Merry Christmas to all see you next week probably, if I have recovered.
Frank
On various occasions, I visit the cemetery where my niece is buried, and some of my parents' ashes are scattered. I have to say the whole place always looks nice, and is well looked after. It would be unbearable to think anyone would take something like that. I often reinstate items that have fallen over in windy weather on some of the nearby graves.
It just seems sad to see them like that, especially when you read the inscriptions. I hoe nobody would mind. I certainly hope someone would do the same at my niece's grave.
Re the previous debate about lead. Why do they keep replacing the r*ddy roofs with more lead! Surely there must be an alternative, especially nowadays when they could still keep the appearance of lead, but make it of concrete or resin or some other material.
I live in west central Scotland - not where that photo is...
Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.