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Herbaceous Virginia creeper?

Hi, there's a plant that sneaks onto my fence each early autumn, does an amazing show of colour and then disappears - almost gone now. Looks like a Virginia creeper but I thought their structure remained all year round? I'm wanting to know what it as would like to deploy elsewhere in the garden. Seems a great way to get that colour, albeit fleeting, without damaging my new fence. Perhaps I could take a cutting when it appears next year?
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  • PosyPosy Posts: 3,601
    Interesting. Can you manage a picture? VC does indeed leave structure because it is deciduous not perennial. Could it be some sort of hop?

  • Ah, thanks Posy. My friend said the other day that there are lots of hops round here - so could be on to something there - but I don't know what they look like 😳 .will look up.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited October 2018
    That looks to me like Parthenocissus quinquefolia ... Virginia creeper between friends  :)

    It's not a hop (anyway, hops are bristly and their leaves are a different shape).

    I wonder why it's disappearing in the winter?

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • Not convinced as it is a big thing - climbs up neighbouring fences and a property - so well established - and dies back every year. Almost gone already.
  • Ps hey dove! Great to hear from you x
  • RubytooRubytoo Posts: 1,630
    Think it is Parthenocisus too.
    The stems look like new young growth, so perhaps you have a conscientious neighbour who cuts back or removes the stems. They appear to be coming through the fence just above the Arris rail?
    If you are friendly ask them for cuttings or if they could leave then so you can peg them down to grow on.
    They do root fairly easily. And the colour is lovely isn't it.
  • No, not a conscientious neighbour. It's dying back by itself. Its right outside my kitchen window and I can watch it due back day by day. Behind the fence is our property (but a right of way).
  • I think next door is the original source though.
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Ps hey dove! Great to hear from you x
    wave xx

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





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