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Help! Is my grape tree dying?

kay87kay87 Posts: 10
hi all 

Around just over a week ago my tree looked fine, the leaves we’re growing and looked healthy and I can see small clusters of grapes growing. 

Rapiky over the kast last few days it has began to look like this: 



Im Hoping it just needs watering? Will that revive it? Is the damage irreversible?

thabks 
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  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    edited July 2018
    Although they like free-draining they also need lots of water in order for the grapes to swell ... also all those leaves transpire moisture very quickly in this heat  ... give them a really good soak - leave the hose trckling gently at the base of the plant for half an hour for the first day -  after that for 15 mins a day every day for the first week ... then after that every other day for 15 mins until this heatwave ends.  

    If we get a hosepipe ban then give it a bucket full of water every day.  

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • kay87kay87 Posts: 10
    Massive thanks guys 
  • kay87kay87 Posts: 10
    Thanks for the advice. I’ve taken up all the suggestions however looking at it now it may be too little too late.

    will it still produce grapes next year?



    All of the leaves are now brown and withered, there are no green leaves left. :(
  • JellyfireJellyfire Posts: 1,139
    edited July 2018
    looking at the speed its gone over it looks like more than lack of water to me. It looks like either the main stem has been broken or something has got through the roots. Is there any poissibility that some chemicals have got into the ground near the roots? If its the main stem then it should sprout strong new growth from the bottom and grow back up again.

    Are there any leaves on it at all that are still green? there may be an unbroken vine you can start agin with?
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Can we have a look at where it's growing out of the soil please?

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • kay87kay87 Posts: 10
    HI there 

    Here is where it is growing from



    To the best of my knowledge there has been no chemicals near the tree. I have used weed killer months ago else where in the court yard but have been careful to keep it away from plants Anand the tree.

    in the first picture, there is another plant growing close to it which still has green leave so , oddly all the other plants seem fine so I do think it’s something related to the grape tree itself.



  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    It's dying of thirst ... a vine with that much foliage needs gallons and gallons of water to sustain it, particularly in the hot weather with drying winds that we've had recently.  

    In that situation it's not even possible for you to water it properly ... my grape vine is planted in the open ground against a trellis, is pruned to keep it much smaller with less foliage than yours, and at the moment it's having from 2 to 4 gallons of water from the watering can every day.

    I'm sorry to say that I don't hold out a lot of hope for it ... it may recover and put on some new growth next year but every dry spell is likely to have the same result.

    I'm afraid that I don't hold out much hope for the continued health of that wisteria either ... plants that size need gallons of water. 

    Sorry to be the bearer of bad news  :'(

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • JellyfireJellyfire Posts: 1,139
    Im assuming that is a retaining wall rather than a raised border, and the soil level behind the fence is at the same level as the bottom of the grape vine? If its just a raised border then there is nowhere for water to get in. Given how mature it looks, it must have sent roots very deep to get water in previous years, but maybe this exceptionally dry weather has taken the water table much lower than before and as Dove says its simply dying of thirst. A vine that size will need gallons and gallons of water 
  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Whatever it was in the pot appears to have died of thirst too  :(

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147
    Is that white 'something' in the corner where the wall and the fence join up, is that a drain pipe?  Perhaps in previous years that has somehow provided water for the wisteria and grapevine ... This year we've had no rain for nigh on two months, and before that it was pretty dry too ... 

    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





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