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Climbing rose

Lily PillyLily Pilly Posts: 3,845
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I have read that it is possible to plant a rose where a one has been before if the hole is big enough   Has anyone done this? Any tips, I know I am taking a risk but the gate needs covered fast   this was Pauls Himalayan which got damaged and has had to be removed 
Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
A A Milne
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  • MarlorenaMarlorena Posts: 8,705
    What a beautiful rose and such a shame it had to be removed.  I used to grow that one through a large willow tree on a river bank, which was rather nice.

    It's got nothing to do with size of hole, but you have a few choices as to how best to proceed.  It's a dodgy process replacing a rose.

    1.  Replace the soil with fresh soil from somewhere else in the garden, as much as you can manage.

    2.  If you don't want to do that, then when you replant your rose, you must go to the extra expense of incorporating mycorrhizal fungi into the planting hole, sprinkling it all over the roots of the new rose.  If you have leaf mould from oak trees or chopped up lawn turf containing plantain roots, that also provides the fungi, otherwise you will need to buy a packet from the garden centre.  Do not use any bone meal fertilizer in addition to the M Fungi, as it clashes.. use one or other, but not both together...

    3.  If possible, you could plant your new rose just 2 or 3 feet to the side of the original planting hole, you might get away with that.  This is my preferred method..

    4. cardboard box - never bothered with it, and I'm not going to explain it..

    best of luck, don't be put off, but you may notice the new rose languishes for the first season, whatever you do... it'll recover in time...
    East Anglia, England
  • Lily PillyLily Pilly Posts: 3,845
    Fantastic advice. Many thanks 
    Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
    A A Milne
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Did the old rose have much disease - susceptible to black spot or rust?
  • Lily PillyLily Pilly Posts: 3,845
    No it had to come down to allow access to the roof. Long story but it broke our hearts as it was a healthy pretty rose 
    Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
    A A Milne
  • Beaus MumBeaus Mum Posts: 3,554
    I heard on gardeners question time the same question and they did say all as above but ultimately they said don't do it 😬
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    ... but sometimes we have to go for it anyway. I have just yesterday planted a rose where I took one out. I have nowhere else a rose could go and it will look superb if it's happy. I guess it's wise to have low expectations and to be prepared to do as much as possible to help it along.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    Paul Zimmerman says you can do a lot with rose replant disease if you add mycorrhizal, lots of manure and don't add all in one specialist rose fertiliser. (Which I've just done :/ ) 

  • Busy-LizzieBusy-Lizzie Posts: 24,043
    I've done it twice. I dug out a barrow load of soil and swapped it with soil from the veg garden and a bucket full of rotted manure. One rose is doing fine, the other has been sickly from the start, should never have bought it but it was the right shade of bronzy pink. Both climbers.
    Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
  • FireFire Posts: 19,096
    There is an interesting (quite long) discussion here about 'debudding' newly planted roses to encourage them to grow strongly, putting energy into establishing rather than flowers, as with some fruit trees. I can imagine it might help the plants , especially if they are going into less than perfect soil conditions. Have you tried this for a season or two?
  • Lily PillyLily Pilly Posts: 3,845
    Hmmmm, well  I will see how clean I can get the soil.  I have bought a David Austin so not a cheap plant!!
    Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
    A A Milne
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