That rose looks starving to me. They need feeding with rose food and a good drink. But if you have already fed them then I suspect the roses can't get to the food as they haven't had enough water to absorb it properly. Do they get some sun?
Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
And, of course, compost, as Dove has reminded me. It should be loamier than just Multi-purpose, should have some John Innes in it. I mix garden earth with manure and compost to fill 2/3 of the pot, then top it up with MP compost, which stops any weeds from the earth and manure coming up. Every year I remove the top few inches of compost and add new.
Dordogne and Norfolk. Clay in Dordogne, sandy in Norfolk.
Clever spot with the label I didn't see it. Maybe if I looked after them properly I would have known it was there ?Here is proof that it WAS a rose in another life..
Ted the dog is very naughty and chewed the only plant I was ever able to grow into hundreds of pieces (and no it wasn't a cactus)...
the pots are huge I have never changed the soil, and prob haven't watered them enough. I maybhave been a little naive in the care that they need!
Hi Lizzie, Mortimer Sackler grows into a huge rose and IMO really isn't suited to a planter, I have two and they are currently about 10ft tall 5ft wide and still growing. Go onto David Austin's web site and check whether the varieties you have are recommended for containers (they will also tell you if the will thrive in shade). If they are they should be in a large container with John Innes 3 and they would need a really good soaking at least twice a week and feeding regularly.
I can see that there are two roses looking very weak and in particular, the Banksiae is quite tender and very fine in its habit naturally, so needs some kind of training to provide stable framework for it to grow from. Because it's sometimes semi evergreen, it's better you cut it down in parts and replenish this plant. It is quite an early flowering one, and assuming you have not seen this plant flower yet? There is no need to keep it like that. You should re-shape it. This rose would prefer east facing or a sunny spot. Is it under some kind of awning/cover?
The leaves look like they've had weather extremes and your plants look like they're ready to spraw onto something. Maybe try to tie the stronger main stems into something right now, and cut off many small whippy and weak looking stems. The soil looks good in one picture, but if you are planting in pots, you have to always watch out on the watering as mentioned by others. More often than not, it always needing water.
I can see that there are two roses looking very weak and in particular, the Banksiae is quite tender and very fine in its habit naturally, so needs some kind of training to provide stable framework for it to grow from. Because it's sometimes semi evergreen, it's better you cut it down in parts and replenish this plant. It is quite an early flowering one, and assuming you have not seen this plant flower yet? There is no need to keep it like that. You should re-shape it. This rose would prefer east facing or a sunny spot. Is it under some kind of awning/cover?
The leaves look like they've had weather extremes and your plants look like they're ready to spraw onto something. Maybe try to tie the stronger main stems into something right now, and cut off many small whippy and weak looking stems. The soil looks good in one picture, but if you are planting in pots, you have to always watch out on the watering as mentioned by others. More often than not, it always needing water.
I suggest you fix some kind of trellis by the wall if possible. But you may want to move this plant to somewhere else if this is not suitable. It will grow tall so eventually as it scrambles upwards. They are best around arbours or some kind of trellis, and as I mentioned, you need it sunny, especially in the spring time, they need the sun to help the buds form. If you grow it in the right place, this rose will throw out masses of button-like blooms and brighten any wall or doorway. At the moment, it's very young and as long as you concentrate on training it and pruning off weak shoots and try to fix a few main stems to a post or trellis, I think it will recover. Not sure where you are, but it can be grown into the ground in a sheltered but sunny spot too rather than confined to a pot.
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That rose looks starving to me. They need feeding with rose food and a good drink. But if you have already fed them then I suspect the roses can't get to the food as they haven't had enough water to absorb it properly. Do they get some sun?
There's a label on the rose in the first photo ... what sort of rose is that?
What sort of compost are they planted in and when were they last repotted into fresh compost.
Have they ever had any fertiliser?
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Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.
Oh, and how big are the pots? They need to be at least 40 - 50cms tall and a similar width.
And, of course, compost, as Dove has reminded me. It should be loamier than just Multi-purpose, should have some John Innes in it. I mix garden earth with manure and compost to fill 2/3 of the pot, then top it up with MP compost, which stops any weeds from the earth and manure coming up. Every year I remove the top few inches of compost and add new.
Clever spot with the label I didn't see it. Maybe if I looked after them properly I would have known it was there ?Here is proof that it WAS a rose in another life..
Ted the dog is very naughty and chewed the only plant I was ever able to grow into hundreds of pieces (and no it wasn't a cactus)...
the pots are huge I have never changed the soil, and prob haven't watered them enough. I maybhave been a little naive in the care that they need!
Can they be revived if I change the top soil do you think?! Also, they are in a rather shady spot...
Hi Lizzie, Mortimer Sackler grows into a huge rose and IMO really isn't suited to a planter, I have two and they are currently about 10ft tall 5ft wide and still growing. Go onto David Austin's web site and check whether the varieties you have are recommended for containers (they will also tell you if the will thrive in shade). If they are they should be in a large container with John Innes 3 and they would need a really good soaking at least twice a week and feeding regularly.
I can see that there are two roses looking very weak and in particular, the Banksiae is quite tender and very fine in its habit naturally, so needs some kind of training to provide stable framework for it to grow from. Because it's sometimes semi evergreen, it's better you cut it down in parts and replenish this plant. It is quite an early flowering one, and assuming you have not seen this plant flower yet? There is no need to keep it like that. You should re-shape it. This rose would prefer east facing or a sunny spot. Is it under some kind of awning/cover?
The leaves look like they've had weather extremes and your plants look like they're ready to spraw onto something. Maybe try to tie the stronger main stems into something right now, and cut off many small whippy and weak looking stems. The soil looks good in one picture, but if you are planting in pots, you have to always watch out on the watering as mentioned by others. More often than not, it always needing water.
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Thanks for This. No haven't seen them flower yet. When you say tie them into something, what would you suggest to tie them to? Thanks again
I suggest you fix some kind of trellis by the wall if possible. But you may want to move this plant to somewhere else if this is not suitable. It will grow tall so eventually as it scrambles upwards. They are best around arbours or some kind of trellis, and as I mentioned, you need it sunny, especially in the spring time, they need the sun to help the buds form. If you grow it in the right place, this rose will throw out masses of button-like blooms and brighten any wall or doorway. At the moment, it's very young and as long as you concentrate on training it and pruning off weak shoots and try to fix a few main stems to a post or trellis, I think it will recover. Not sure where you are, but it can be grown into the ground in a sheltered but sunny spot too rather than confined to a pot.