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BibluBiblu Posts: 27

Hello Gardeners world, I'm a complete gardening novice so please forgive any stupid questions that may (will) follow...

I've noticed this shoot storming out of the rose pot, it kind of came from nowhere and towers above the rest of the plant - so someone said it could be a sucker?

I tried to do some research online but it doesn't seem so clear cut - it doesn't come out from the soil and I cant make out which bit is the bud union...so can't tell if it comes out below or above.

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Any other general advice also appreciated, this rose plant is very sentimental to my better half but it doesn't seem to prosper to my uneducated eyes; usually has quite a lot of yellow/black leaves and generally seems weak.

- Is it planted too low in the pot (I read roses need good airflow?)

- I have no idea how to prune it (again, read that roses need good airflow?)

Thanks! :-)

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  • ButtercupdaysButtercupdays Posts: 4,546

    Your answer is waiting for you - the stem has a flower bud. Wait till it opens, shouldn't be long, and you will know for sure. If the flower is the same as the others then it is a new, strong shoot -  brilliant! If it is different, probably a single dog rose type, then it is a sucker, so remove it bu pulling sharply downwards.

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147

    No, I don't think that's a sucker so no need to worry about it. image

    It looks as if your rose is quite happy and the healthy new shoots are growing well.

    I would give it some specialist rose food (according to the instructions on the pack ... don't overdose)

    and next Jan/February I'd take it out of the pot and remove the loose compost  and re-pot it in John Innes No 3 loam-based compost.

    When you repot it I would bury the graft point (where all the stems are coming from) a good 2 to 3 inches below the surface of the soil. 

    It looks as if it's going to grow quite a few new long shoots so next year it may be better to find a bigger container for it.   If so, try not to get one that curves in at the top ... it'll make it easier to look after and as you say, ensure good air flow at the base. 

    Yes, I'd fill the pot much nearer to the top of the pot ... leave about an inch and make sure that there are plenty of drainage holes in the base of the pot so that it doesn't get waterlogged.  

    In the winter it's a good idea to stand the pot up on pot feet or three half bricks to make sure that the drainage hole can't get blocked.  

    A few yellow/black leaves are not unusual on some roses ... pick them off and burn them so any fungal spores don't spread.

    Otherwise that looks like a lovely healthy rose bush image

    Do you know the name of the rose?  That would help with pruning decisions. 

    Last edited: 14 June 2017 12:00:32


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  • BibluBiblu Posts: 27

    Wow, amazingly fast replies, thanks

    Well the results are in...looks like it is a strong shoot image

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    So when I repot it, should I go to the level of the red line, then?

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    It is a 'Lavender Symphonie', apparently...

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    Interested to learn how to prune it - when should I be pruning? There are some wooden shoots now, should I prune those off now, for example?

    Maybe I'll post some photos come the time with some annotations because I've read quite a bit of literature on pruning and usually don't understand the terminology.

  • DovefromaboveDovefromabove Posts: 88,147

    Lovely rose image

    No pruning now ... wait until early spring - late Feb.

    Yes, plant it  up to the red line.  John Innes No 3 loam based compost will be best.  (think I've already said that image)

    Last edited: 25 June 2017 11:14:51


    Gardening in Central Norfolk on improved gritty moraine over chalk ... free-draining.





  • That is a beautiful rose bush.

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