please help me to identify my old rose
roberto231
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My dear gardeners world members , i am in a need of a big favour to find out the name of my old beautiful rose, that my beloved father( long dead now) bought around 30 years ago.
i will try to post good quality pictures and hope to find someone to help me, i will be thankful for life.
1. the rose is about 4 metres high, intense red, very fragrant, big to huge flowers, which repeat through the summer, the buds are long , slim , the color is intense red when fresh, later in the hot midday sun turns to dark blue, to black on the end of the petals, dark fuchsia as well , inside has many intense yellow stamen , the leaflet is dark green not that healthy, the thorns are big and strong . 
that is a small introduction and now the pictures:
i would love to know what rose it is so i can know how to prune it right. The rose itself has been neglected for some time. i wish she would bloom more .
thank you very much ,
Roberto
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I have been having a look for your rose and the closest I can find is Rosa Guinee. A hybrid tea climber raised by Mallerin in 1938. The only thing I could not find was how thorny it is.Hope this helps.
I wonder if it is a Kordes Rose called Symphathie. I have one climbing by the front door and it must be all of 30 years old. Peter Beale Roses sell them.
http://www.kordes-rosen.com/gardenrose-sympathie?___SID=U
https://www.classicroses.co.uk/sympathie-151466.html
I found a you tube video of Rosa Sympathie -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkUKEjP4UWU
Billericay - Essex
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Thank you so much to all of you.
Dear Fritillary, the rose has a lot of thorns, quite big and strong. You can see it very well on the first picture above.
I do not think it is a Rosa Sympathie because by coincidence a planted a young Sympathie in my garden three days ago. It looks like this:
in the pictures the color may not seem to be of a big difference, but in reality they have very different kind of red. So I believe it is a Rosa Guinee .
Thank you so much to all of you. So kind of you. I hope I can be of help some day.
Roberto